Oh, and as another aside, I left CMU in February (I'm now
unemployed) but the last effort we had was to release our
6 year research project as open source. That effort is tied
up in legal somewhere and has been since January. Since I'm
no longer there I expect the code will never see the light
of day. Which implies that I cannot use my last 6 years of
work. Technically I cannot complain as I knew the rules
while I worked there but it really does seem like a waste
of good research. Nobody will be able to build on the results,
which is a fundamental principle of scientific progress.

Tim Daly

On Sun, 2011-10-16 at 15:42 -0400, daly wrote:
> Hmmm. I did work at CMU last year on a Journal article.
> It was based on about 3 years of research work. The article
> was completed, submitted for review, and accepted. CMU
> required that I sign over the copyright to them. Springer
> required that I sign over the copyright to them, despite
> an agreement between CMU and Springer. It turned out that
> the agreement was between CMU and Springer USA but the
> Journal is published by Springer Europe. 
> 
> Ultimately the two lawyers could not agree and my Journal
> article was withdrawn during production. CMU now holds the
> copyright. Three years of work and I have nothing, no rights
> and no publication.
> 
> As a major advocate of Literate Programming I was hoping to
> publish a follow-on paper that included the actual source
> code. Why bother?
> 
> Tim Daly
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2011-10-16 at 12:20 -0700, William Stein wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Sunday, October 16, 2011, Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Bill,
> > > are you sure that you have signed away to your employer rights to
> > your ideas ?
> > 
> > Technically Bill only said that Uni's consider employee work
> > intellectual property, but he did not say they consider it *their*
> > intellectual property...
> > 
> > > While some not so great universities are just degree-selling
> > businesses, 
> > > last time I had to obtain a permission from my employer for
> > publishing something, was still in Soviet Union!
> > > So I really don't see how results of work done by a faculty member
> > are university property. 
> > >  
> > >
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