> > Well, that is a different issue.  I think that sage/tests/startup.py is
> > a bad test because it is too unpredictable.  Sometimes it works,
> > sometimes it doesn't, depending for example on the load of the system.

indeed; I've had trouble with this too

> Removing the test rather than fixing the problem is
> saying that excessive startup time isn't a bug.

but the test only runs on sage.math, so is it only a bug on
sage.math?  I think the trac server is the place where bugs are
properly acknowledged anyway.  If adding a failing doctest to sage is
the way to get a bug recognized, I'm sure we can all send in our
favorites.

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