On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:20 AM, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 1. IDE's
> There are a number of IDEs that can be used for Python development:
>
>   * Spyder (free, cross platform) -- http://code.google.com/p/spyderlib/
>   * Eric (free, cross platform) -- http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/
>   * PyDev + Eclipse or Aptana (free, cross platform) -- http://pydev.org/
>   * Wing IDE (non free, but has a 30-day trial) -- http://www.wingware.com/
>   * XCode (free, closed, OS X only)
>
> I'm at EuroScipy and many of the scientists and engineers giving talks
> mention some of these IDE's (especially Spyder).  It would be of
> interest to make a page at http://wiki.sagemath.org about each of the
> above IDE's in the context of Sage.  Which can be used with Sage?
> How?  Do they work on anything but Linux, etc.  Any volunteers?   This
> could be a good student project (so possibly some funding for
> something at UW).
>
> 2. Sage at EuroScipy:
>
> Another thing -- though most talks mention Cython, not one single talk
> given about actual engineers/scientists doing work even mentioned Sage
> -- and there were over 30 talks.  Perhaps there is no penetration at
> all of Sage into scientific computing, at least in Europe.  Perhaps
> this will change in the next few years, given that NSF looks highly
> likely to fund this NSF grant http://wstein.org/grants/compmath09/
>
> Sage was only mentioned in the first keynote by Langtangen, in which
> he explained that installing Python for his students is very hard.
> His personal solution -- force the students to install Ubuntu, either
> natively or in a Virtual Machine.  Full stop.
> http://picasaweb.google.com/wstein/20100710EuroscipyDay1#5492400224314781074
> He made some (funny) jokes about being a dictator.
>
> I personally disagree with his suggested "solution".   Maple, Matlab,
> Mathematica do better, and so can we.

Yeah, definitely. I am now working at the Lawrence Livermore National
Lab during the summer and I don't have a root access to my computer,
and it is not running Ubuntu. So his solution would be a complete
failure for me.

I am running our latest git femhub: http://femhub.org/ and that
creates me a nice environment, and I use "femhub --shell", which is
like "sage -sh", except that the prompt looks better:

FEMhub: ond...@raven:~/repos/hermes1d(master)$

Here are the packages that are in femhub:

http://femhub.org/codes.php

At least for me, it's now doing exactly what I need.

Another problem is with gui ---- I couldn't get any working for
matplotlib. So I would like to get the html5 canvas working for
matplotlib.

Also I would like to have some easy way to create guis, it should run
in the browser. Using extjs: http://www.sencha.com/products/js/, but
I'd like to somehow write it in Python, so that I don't have to mess
up with javascript.

Ondrej

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