On 27 Mai, 02:27, kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > For Sage, this is simply not true for the majority of *users*.   The
> > > vast majority of Sage users could care less that we release new
> > > versions -- most don't even notice or care.
>
> > I can't judge this. If it's true, fine.
>
> Especially for those running servers.  But for most the updates are
> not as important.

Yes, admins love less frequent updates, as long as users don't
complain (and there are no security issues).
And alphas & rcs aren't mirrored... (some kind of unintentional? "gold
release" feature)

> > My experience is rather that many people just update (not only)
> > software in general either because they fear missing something or just
> > feel they have to have the latest version (they *believe* to be best/
> > superior), i.e. rather *not* driven by *functional* demand.
>
> But quite different here - there are no email reminders, no anything.

Subscribe to sage-release (where pre-releases are announced, too), or
sage-announce? ;-)

On certain failures, you get a "run sage -upgrade" message.

> No huge marketing campaigns (at least not for upgrades; hopefully for
> 5.0 we will make a big push for *new* users).  As long as you don't
> encounter a life-threatening bug, you just keep using it.  When you
> do, you update (or use sagenb.org).  I really like this aspect.  I
> think this makes Sage a little different from both productivity
> software/OSes and more academic/industrial software.

The Sagenb aspect is nice. Like Live-CDs for getting an impression
before updating/installing (though I even hate reboots).
And it's easy to have/keep multiple Sage installations, a rarely
available opportunity.

-Leif

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