On May 18, 5:30 pm, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Pablo Winant <pablo.win...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I guess the problem does not arise in Python's namespace. Unless I'm missing
> > something, I don't see how 'import pytave'  statement could conflict with
> > singular python modules or objects.
>
> > There seem to be an incompatibility between octave and singular shared
> > libraries (.so file) related to C++ templating.  According to pytave's dev,
>
> That makes sense.  We've had problems like this before.  E.g., at one
> point suddenly MatPlotLib had a new C++ type with the same name as
> something in another C++ library that Sage links in (maybe licecm or
> NTL).  The fix that time was to change libecm or NTL.
>

It's been a while since I coded in C++, but isn't there always a
simple way out, just by putting these classes in different namespaces?
(IMHO it's a silly of a library developer to call something "Array"
and put in into the global namespace,
hoping that noone else ever is going to call  "Array" something
entirely different...)

Dima

> William
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> > "The problem is conflicting implementations of Array<int>. Both liboctave
> > and Singular have their own template <class T> class Array with an int
> > instantiation". I thought it was impossible to simultenously load the two
> > .so files with the same python interpreter. Is it correct ?
>
> > Pablo
>
> > Le 18/05/2010 16:41, Dima Pasechnik a écrit :
>
> >> Certainly, such name clashes are not uncommon (e.g. cvxopt defines its
> >> own
> >> matrix that clashes with Sage's matrix)
> >> IMHO if you import the needed things from the package you need, doing
> >> re-namings when needed, as usual  (from foo import blah as fooblah)
> >> you can avoid the problem you describe.
>
> >> HTH,
> >> Dmitrii
>
> >> On May 18, 10:44 am, Pablo Winant<pablo.win...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> >>> Hello,
>
> >>> I am still trying to use Pytave under Sage. After some work, I
> >>> eventually managed to compile every needed library (boost, octave), but
> >>> I went through an annoying bug.
> >>> It is possible to use the library with 'sage -python' or 'sage
> >>> -ipython'  but when imported at the sage command prompt it fails.
> >>> According to pytave developper, it is due to an incompatibility between
> >>> the templates of octave and singular, the class Array ending up being
> >>> declared twice.
>
> >>> For this reason, I am wondering whether it is possible to restrict the
> >>> initial import into sage interpreter so as to avoid importing singular.
> >>> Would something usable remain if I remove all modules depending on it (I
> >>> don't really need pure mathematics functions anymore) ? What would be
> >>> the right way to do it ?
>
> >>> Best,
>
> >>> Pablo
>
> >>> P.S. the attempts I made are tracked
> >>> herehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/pytave/+bug/578767. Once it is done I would
> >>> be more than happy to contribute doc/script on the matter.
> >>> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/pytave/+bug/578767>
>
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