Is there a mathematica test suite we could adapt or a standardized set
of tests we could use? Maybe we could take the 100 most often used
functions and make a test suite?


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On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:04 AM, David Kirkby <david.kir...@onetel.net> wrote:
> Has anyone ever considered randomised testing of Sage against Mathematica?
>
> As long as the result is either
>
> a) True or False
> b) An integer
>
> then comparison should be very easy. As a dead simple example,
>
> 1) Generate a large random number n.
> 2) Use is_prime(n) in Sage to determine if n is prime or composite.
> 3) Use PrimeQ[n] in Mathematica to see if n is prime or composite.
> 4) If Sage and Mathematica disagree, write it to a log file.
>
> Something a bit more complex.
>
> 1) Generating random equation f(x) - something that one could integrate.
> 2) Generate generate random upper and lower limits, 'a' and 'b'
> 3) Perform a numerical integration of f(x) between between 'a' and 'b' in Sage
> 4) Perform a numerical integration of f(x) between between 'a' and 'b'
> in Mathematica
> 5) Compare the outputs of the Sage and Mathematica
>
> A floating point number, would be more difficult to compare, as one
> would need to consider what is a reasonable level of difference.
>
> Comparing symbolic results directly would be a much more difficult
> task, and probably impossible without a huge effort, since you can
> often write an equation in several different ways which are equal, but
> a computer program could not easily be programmed to determine if they
> are equal.
>
> One could potentially let a computer crunch away all the time, looking
> for differences. Then when they are found, a human would had to
> investigate why the difference occurs.
>
> One could then add a trac item for "Mathematica bugs" There was once a
> push for a public list of Mathematica bugs. I got involved a bit with
> that, but it died a death and I became more interested in Sage.
>
> Some of you may know of Vladimir Bondarenko, who is a strange
> character who regularly used to publish Mathematica and Maple bugs he
> had found. In some discussions I've had with him, he was of the
> opinion that Wolfram Research took bug reports more seriously than
> Maplesoft. I've never worked out what technique he uses, but I believe
> is doing some randomised testing, though it is more sophisticated that
> what I'm suggesting above.
>
> There must be a big range of problem types where this is practical -
> and a much larger range where it is not.
>
> You could at the same also compare the time taken to execute the
> operation to find areas where Sage is much faster or slower than
> Mathematica.
>
> Dave
>
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