On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Fredrik Johansson
<fredrik.johans...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:51 AM, John H Palmieri
> <jhpalmier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 22, 2:14 pm, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:02 PM, John H Palmieri <jhpalmier...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Oct 22, 8:57 am, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:11 AM, John H Palmieri 
>>> >> <jhpalmier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > Anyway, 0^0 is undefined in mathematics, so it's good that it's
>>> >> > undefined in Sage.
>>>
>>> >> It's defined for Sage *integers*:
>>>
>>> >> sage: 0^0
>>> >> 1
>>>
>>> > What about:
>>>
>>> > sage: 0.000^0.000
>>> > 1.00000000000000
>>>
>>> > Shouldn't this be undefined?
>>>
>>> >  John
>>>
>>> Sage's behavior for 0.0^0.0 is determined by MPFR's, and MPFR follows
>>> "the ISO C99 standard for the pow function" as explained here:
>>>
>>>    http://www.mpfr.org/mpfr-current/mpfr.html
>>>
>>> In particular, see the rule that "pow(x, ±0) returns 1 for any x, even
>>> a NaN."   Indeed:
>>>
>>> sage: RR('NaN')^0
>>> 1.00000000000000
>>
>> Wow, I thought Sage did math.  The mathematical standard for 0^0 (for
>> real numbers) is that it doesn't exist, right?  Or did I miss a memo
>> somewhere?  What about these:
>
> What do you mean by "mathematical standard"? A perfectly valid view is
> that 0^0 = 1 and that the function f(x,y) = x^y simply is
> discontinuous.

Also, 0^x is discontinuous.

>
>> sage: CC(0)^CC(0)
>> NaN - NaN*I
>> sage: 0^CC(0)
>> NaN - NaN*I
>> sage: CC(0)^0
>> ArithmeticError: 0^0 is undefined.
>> sage: CC(Infinity)^0
>> 1.00000000000000
>> sage: CC(Infinity)^CC(0)
>> NaN - NaN*I
>
> The inconsistency is surely not good.
>
> Fredrik
>
> >
>

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