On Jul 3, 2009, at 1:47 AM, Dan Drake wrote:

> On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 at 05:28PM -0700, Rob Beezer wrote:
>> Flowplayer is a big GPL'ed project, with open and commercial  
>> versions.
>> Ondrej's project appears to be a way to make movies from screenshots,
>> or of interactive sessions, or something like that.  Ondrej can chime
>> in and correct me.
>> http://flowplayer.org/
>> http://github.com/certik/record/tree/master
>
> Have you seen the video stuff in Firefox 3.5? I find it much, much  
> nicer
> than anything done in Flash. You can do crazy Javascript stuff to
> control the videos: see
> http://people.mozilla.com/~prouget/demos/DynamicContentInjection/play.xhtml
> and http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/06/pop-art-video/ . Embedding a  
> video
> in a page is no more difficult than embedding an image: check out
> http://sagenb.kaist.ac.kr/video.html and do a "view source".
>
> It works so well and so seamlessly that I kinda want to just ditch any
> sort of cross-browser compatibility and tell everyone to use Firefox
> 3.5. (Although I think Safari and Chrome have some support for the Ogg
> video stuff.)

No. Safari doesn't support Ogg at all. Safari and Chrome support H.264,
but Chrome supports Ogg. Apple won't support Ogg since there is no
hardware support for it which makes it difficult for Mobile Safari.

You can support both Ogg and H.264, but you'd need to generate both
videos. John Gruber talks about converting H.264 to Ogg and setting
up the video tags.

http://daringfireball.net/2009/07/ffmpeg2theora

If Sage ditched compatibility for Safari, you'd lose any iPhone/iPod
Touch support. I'd prefer to avoid the use of Flash for the same reason.

I don't mind the use of the video tag, but ffmpeg can generate H.264,
but apparently the Ogg support is problematic. Hence the ffmpeg2theora.

Cheers,

Tim.

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Tim Lahey
PhD Candidate, Systems Design Engineering
University of Waterloo
http://www.linkedin.com/in/timlahey

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