On May 18, 10:03 am, mabshoff <mabsh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On May 18, 9:50 am, Ondrej Certik <ond...@certik.cz> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Brian Granger <ellisonbg....@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
>
> > > But, if in the medium term (as Michael is hoping for), the Sage build
> > > system can be improved to the point where both Sage and SPD are using
> > > the same infrastructure, that would help a lot. We could then create
> > > SPD releases with whatever spkgs that we need without burdening the
> > > Sage devs.
>
> > Sounds good.
>
> > As to me, I don't mind calling SPD just Sage. I chose a different name
> > because we were asked explicitly by Michael not to call it Sage. I
> > guess it's like Ubuntu, it's also not called a Debian, when in fact it
> > *is* a Debian.
>
> Well, I see the relationship between Sage and SPD more as Ubuntu vs. a
> respin. Kubuntu focuses on KDE vs. the more gnome centric Ubuntu.
> Analog there is Edubuntu and so on.
And to take the analogy even further: There are also minimal Ubuntu
respins, i.e. this all started since Ondrej had trouble building
ntl.spkg on a cluster with a FUBAR network file system and since he
didn't need NTL the rest is history as they say :)
> In the end we should have Sage-core, i.e. the standard configuration
> of Sage, but there is no reason to not have sage-fe with a say loads
> of spkgs on top of Sage that aren't in there due to size restriction.
>
> SPD would be the very core infrastructure that can be branded, i.e.
> doing notebook+sympy+numpy+scipy+MPL+mavavi+atlas could be something
> that is not a subset of sage-core, but has substantial overlap.
And the last time Sage spun off a project, i.e SageX which become
Cython the end product was much, much better and Cython is a much
better project now compared to what it would have been had it remained
SageX.
The next success story will be the spun off Sage notebook which
already exists as an informal light version and is used by Ondrej as a
component of SPD. But Mike Hansen has rebuild it partially with pylon
IIRC and will make it completely independent of Sage. And it will just
kill and kick ass out there in the wild ;)
Cheers,
Michal
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