Hi Michael,

Actually, I thought that this discussion (especially people much more
expert than me) has clarified the point that implementing integrals is
not really just matter of a couple of months... but I would be glad to
see this happen!

I know there are some license issues with SymPy (not really issues,
just differences probably) but I think there's no problem in taking
inspiration and some pieces of code from it, right?

I'm saying this, because I can see this new symbolic stuff exciting,
but without the right amount of interest on it, its development will
always be a little slow

Regards

Maurizio

On Apr 21, 1:12 am, mabshoff <mabsh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 20, 1:12 pm, Maurizio <maurizio.gran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Burcin, thanks for replying!
>
> <SNIP>
>
> > I don't know what about those algorithms, but it seems to me that
> > SymPy already implements some good heuristics, which can solve
> > integrals that Mathematica can't.
>
> Well, there are many, many integrals that MMA can do that Sympy
> cannot. So it doesn't matter that in this specific case SymPy solves
> it.
>
> > So can we take this as a starting
> > point? I see that it is certainly possible to implement everything
> > from the beginning, but a bootstrapped start seems better to me in the
> > short term, because this could provide the user the functionalities
> > needed. This could be useful to speed up the switch to the new
> > symbolic system (I think you wouldn't do that without a good
> > integration engine), and once there, you got a great exposure to bug
> > fixing by users.
>
> Well, talking about it won't make it happen :). People working on
> Symbolics in Sage are well aware of Sympy and its capabilities, but it
> is BSD (i.e. some people won't work on it) and abstract mathematical
> capabilities aren't as well developed as in Sage and often quite a bit
> slower. Pynac is building Symbolics from the ground up and it has
> taken a while to get to where we are and another couple months more or
> less won't make a difference at this point.
>
> > Thanks
>
> > Maurizio
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael
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