On Jan 25, 6:04 pm, kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is that September 2009? If we do not have something native on Windows
> > then we are in deep trouble.
>
> The technical discussion above was very interesting, as I know little
> about Windows internals, and it sounds like tons of good work is going
> on with supporting so many architectures. I probably should have
> asked a less cryptic question, though, so I am sorry - here is the
> real one:
>
> Will there be a sage.exe file (or something like that) that my
> students can download straight from sagemath.org and use right away on
> a Windows machine?
Installing Sage for Cygwin will likely involve installing an MSI
installer, so it should be a double click to install Sage. Running
Sage on the other hand from Cygwin in a transparent manner has not
been solved yet, but I believe that adding an icon on the Windows
desktop that starts Sage and then pops up a browser Window is not all
that hard.
> This would be similar to the .app solution that now exists for Mac
> (see #4817, the resolution of which would make 3.3 even more
> spectacular than it already is). I can't overemphasize how much this
> could transform the (silent) user base of Sage.
Yep, thanks for putting together all the instructions. It would be
helpful to have a working Sage app with all of the actual Sage
stripped out, i.e. just a tarball of the app skeleton. If you get that
to me off list I am sure I can add a -bdist target on OSX that
produces such an app and wraps it inside the dmg.
> Re: Cygwin, I can convince a few hard-core students to download VMWare
> +VMWare Sage image, but those are the same ones I can convince to try
> using LaTeX for their homework ;) It seems like Cygwin might be about
> the same difficulty level for them as VMWare - i.e., not too hard but
> just inconvenient enough to discourage most students. Or is Cygwin
> easier than VMWare? I assume it at least doesn't have the downside of
> only having available whatever virtual memory is allocated.
The VMWare image allows for more memory and it also isolates Sage much
better from the system. The main user base seems to be on Windows for
now, but running notebook servers via the image is more convenient.
But I can certainly understand that a non-technical user has more
trouble with the image than Cygwin since files aren't shared between
the image and the local computer for example and that one has to deal
with networking when running the VMWare image.
> - kcrisman
Cheers,
Michael
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