How about this?

<http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/4423>

  John


On Nov 2, 8:46 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Implement it and send me a patch" ;-)
>
> I know.... :-(           Unfortunately I have no time to go through
> all
> the definitions....sigh...
>
> With my post I just wanted to raise awareness of this issue.
>
> Regards,
> Michel
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