I made some changes to the original code so it would use the cache a bit better. The test code seems to pass, so I don't think I've screwed anything up.
The time for 16384x16384 on my machine is now 20s, so a factor of 2.15x faster. The time for 2000x2000 also seems to be the same time as Magma now. Hopefully I didn't just mistime things before, and this is a real improvement. I am still trying things out. Bill. On 16 May, 01:41, Bill Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it might just be possible to get down to the speed of Magma > with a highly optimised classical multiplication routine. At 3600X3600 > one clearly has to do 3600x3600 scalar products of a row by a column. > We'll assume one of the matrices has been transposed to facilitate > this. > > If we use SSE2 then we can operate 128 bits at a time. There are 16 > SSE registers. > > The basic idea would be to load 4 SSE registers from different rows of > matrix A and 2 from different columns of matrix B. We compute the > scalar products of all 8 combinations of rowsxcolumns simultaneously. > For this we need 2 temporary registers and 8 registers to hold the > running totals. So all in all we need 4+2+2+8 = 16 registers. We only > need to do an AND and an XOR to do the multiplication and addition > required. > > Caching becomes irrelevant if we choose a large selection of rows from > A and a large selection of columns from B and do all the possible > scalar products or rows by columns before moving to the next part. > > Assuming the Opteron can do the memory loads at the same time as doing > arithmetic not depending on those loads, careful instruction > scheduling should get everything down to the cost of an SSE AND and an > SSE OR per 128x128 bit pair in the classical algorithm. That puts the > entire algorithm at pretty close to what Magma is doing timewise. > > Another option is to not use SSE and just use the 64 bit integer > registers. The disadvantage is one has to load things 64 bits at a > time. But the advantage is the Opteron can do three arithmetic > operations per cycle if properly scheduled. That gets 50% more work > done than the SSE registers, which can only do 1 x 128 bit operation > per cycle. > > Of course I'm making the assumption here that the Opteron can indeed > do loads at the same time as arithmetic. > > if not, then there is no way Magma can be using classical > multiplication out to 3600x3600 since there are simply too many > operations to perform in the number of cycles available. > > Bill. > > On 16 May, 00:03, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > On Thursday 15 May 2008, Bill Hart wrote: > > > > Here is the graph of Magma times: > > > >http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wbhart/flint-trunk/graphing/gf2.png > > > > The crossover is not clear. The change from a smooth curve to a > > > squiggly line is about 3600. So presumably that is it, but the graph > > > also seems to change character at about 6200 or 7000 as well. One of > > > these changes may be cache related. > > > At 3600, the total data for all three matrices is almost 5mb and the > > > cache on my machine is 1024kb. But if Magma is using classical > > > multiplication, then this is pretty much irrelevant anyway, since you > > > can keep the working data within the cache for quite a while during > > > the algorithm. > > > On the other hand: a squiggly line is what one one would expect for > > Strassen-Winograd due to the extra rows/columns that have to be taken care > > of. In any case: 3600 seems rather late for 1MB L2 cache. I think Allan > > Steel > > once gave a talk about his implementation and stated that they don't use > > classical block multiplication (I saw some slides with that remark). > > > Martin > > > -- > > name: Martin Albrecht > > _pgp:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x8EF0DC99 > > _www:http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~malb > > _jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---