Hi Martin, Bill:

Thanks for these very interesting emails! Some of my reactions are below.

- David Joyner

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Martin,
>
>  I think discussing things like off the email lists does more damage to
>  the community then it would if you were to be more public about these
>  opinions. Are far as I am concerned, you have nothing to fear from
>  exploring these ideas and other people might benefit greatly by your
>  experience.
>
>  Sage is not going away (It should not go away!) and I think the Axiom
>  community needs to deal with how it should interact with Sage in the
>  future.
>
>  Regards,
>  Bill Page.
>
>  On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Martin Rubey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > I don't have the guts to send this to a public mailing list.  I probably
>  >  should.  If you want to, you have my permission.
>  >
>  >
>  >  "Alfredo Portes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>  >
>  >  > >  Axiom is so huge, so if Sage would be a part of Axiom that just 
> handles
>  >  > > the web interface, why not?
>  >  >
>  >  > If you think Axiom is huge, then you need to look at Sage. It is ~10x 
> Axiom.
>  >  > And in the other hand Axiom making a standard package will not happen. 
> There
>  >  > are discussions on their list to remove lisp and maxima.


IMHO, I don't think removing lisp or maxima will happen anytime soon. Lots of
topics are open for discussion on the sage-devel list, and William
Stein of course
makes the final decision, but I've not heard any specific plans for
that. On the other hand,
I think a lot of people would be very happy if SymPy could, as if by
magic, implement
all the functionality of Maxima and Axiom overnight:-)


>  >
>  >  That's bad news, at least for me.  I was hoping a lot that Axiom could be
>  >  merged into Sage at some point, in some way.  After all, Axiom does have 
> some
>  >  interesting and huge packages, like the integration stuff.  But maybe I'm
>  >  mistaken.
>  >
>  >  It seems that Sage is going to connect with OLPC.  If all those kids do 
> their
>  >  math using Sage, I think there is no way around Sage anymore.  Sage can 
> already
>  >  do many many things better than Axiom, I suppose, so we need really good
>  >  reasons to continue with Axiom, I think.  Maybe I should just redo the 
> guessing
>  >  package in Python and be done with it?  Some time ago I said that I'll 
> quit


I think that would be awesome!!


>  >  Axiom if there are less than twenty contributors by the end of 2008.  
> However,
>  >  it seems to me that the number of algebra contributors actually went down!
>  >
>  >  I'd really like to hear some comments on the general plan.  Do you think 
> it's
>  >  feasible to
>  >
>  >  a) attract other people, not working on Sage
>  >  b) merge our community into the Sage community

I personally like this idea very much, but don't have any ideas for
how this would
evolve. Again, it depends on what William Stein thinks about it. Maybe
eventually a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list could be formed?
If I can help in some small way, please let me know.


>  >
>  >  Martin
>  >
>  >
>
>  >
>

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