On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 10:29 AM aska...@gmail.com <askat...@gmail.com> wrote: > I use Sagemath on Windows (essentially because my university only supports > Windows, but also because I prefer Windows to other systems and I cannot > really deal with having separate machines for programming and everything > else). My university provides Sagemath on version 9.1 on the old Windows > installer (and I fear they discontinue it once they find out that it is no > longer supported). Using it via WSL doesn't work unless one has admin > privileges and knows how to disable our VPN (which is something we are not > meant to do, and that I am pretty sure they don't know I know how to do).
It's just a non-starter. "My employer only allows MS-DOS, ChatGPT, and typewriters" sort of thing. WSL is an essential part of Windows. Demand WSL support from your employer. They need to understand that a lot of research software does not run on Windows, and won't ever, most probably. What does WSL have to do with VPN, or admin privileges (yes, one sometimes might need to be an admin on the WSL vm, it does not mean admin on the Windows box). > > I am saying the above because my feedback would be to get as close as > possible to "no WSL" as many universities tend to disable it. If I understand > correctly from your link, approach D may get close to this? If you have > specific requests for feedback (i.e. if you want me to try something), let me > know and I can do this in September. Approach D is very far from being done. It requires years of dedicated person-year work, and the persons in question have to be very capable. Unless Micro$oft or some other big company forks out a sizeable grant for this to happen (and other funding just should not go there, because more working on Windows software ports is mostly bringing more benefits to their shareholders, the benefits to the society as the whole from ports to Windows are negative!), it probably won't happen. Life is too short to be wasted on banging one's head against horrible M$ engineering problems. Dima > > Thanks for making new Sagemath options for Windows users! > > Best, > > Jesús > > On Monday, 18 August 2025 at 18:45:30 UTC+2 seb....@gmail.com wrote: >> >> > A big thanks, Marc. >> >> +1 >> >> > I am looking forward to testing it with my colleagues, students and >> > friends, especially those on Windows. >> >> BTW: Eight months ago, we reactivated the sage-windows repository, which was >> once used to provide Windows installers for Sage via Cygwin. The goal was to >> create a place where we could share the current status of our efforts to >> provide easy access for Windows users and finally make such installers >> available from there. Unfortunately, work on the repository has stalled, >> primarily due to a lack of feedback. >> >> There are currently four approaches to obtaining installers for Sage on >> Windows, again. At least the approach marked with "C" still works for all >> Sage releases available on DockerHub. I suggest adding AppImage as a fifth >> approach. >> >> >> GMS schrieb am Samstag, 16. August 2025 um 11:10:33 UTC+2: >>> >>> >>> A big thanks, Marc. I am looking forward to testing it with my colleagues, >>> students and friends, especially those on Windows. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Guillermo >>> >>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 at 10:56, Eric Gourgoulhon <egourg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> This is great news! >>>> Thank you very much for making this possible! >>>> >>>> Eric. >>>> >>>> Le vendredi 15 août 2025 à 16:34:29 UTC+2, marc....@gmail.com a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> The 3-manifolds project is now distributing a beta version of >>>>> SageMath-x86_64.AppImage . >>>>> This means that SageMath 10.7 can be installed and run on any version of >>>>> linux which is compatible with manylinux2014 by downloading one file and >>>>> marking it as executable. The compatible linux systems include Ubuntu >>>>> 24.04, Debian 12 and the default ubuntu image for Windows 11 WSL2, none >>>>> of which are currently providing any sagemath packages. >>>>> >>>>> This continues our effort to make sage accessible to the large group of >>>>> users which includes most students and most of their professors and which >>>>> consists of people who are not interested in, or not capable of, learning >>>>> how to compile sage or maintain 3rd party package managers -- people who >>>>> expect to be able to just download a program and run it. While, as a >>>>> reader of this email list, you probably do not belong to that group, we >>>>> are hoping that you do have an interest in increasing access to sage and >>>>> that you might be interested in testing the AppImage and reporting any >>>>> issues you encounter. >>>>> >>>>> For those who are not familiar with the AppImage format, it is simply an >>>>> ELF binary executable file containing a very small program with an >>>>> arbitrarily large squashfs filesystem appended. The small program does a >>>>> fuse mount of the squashfs filesystem and then execs a main program >>>>> located at the root of the filesystem. The squashfs should contain all >>>>> library dependencies of the main program, and all dynamic libraries >>>>> should be loaded from an rpath pointing into the squashfs. That way the >>>>> AppImage has no external dependencies. >>>>> >>>>> - Marc >>> >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/afeebaa6-19f8-4d46-b829-17be28f84db5n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAAWYfq0v7t7ew8pi%2BZFJgSEP9YC4doYh0LBJMKzj7x_H7%3DWCwQ%40mail.gmail.com.
