Dear Laël,

On Sunday, August 25, 2024 at 2:29:44 AM UTC-5 "Dima" wrote:

CertIainly Sage does build and run on all sorts of Linux systems. But it's 
getting more and more bloated to support macOS, and this gets in the way of 
Linux.


It is true that Sage builds on linux, of course.  It is false that Sage 
bloat (real or perceived) is related in any way to the fact that Sage 
supports the macOS operating system.  The core issue is that parts of the 
Sage community have a very hard time accepting the idea that most Sage 
users are more interested in doing math than in compiling code, and would 
much prefer to be able to easily install a binary package which they can 
just use to having to build their own.  The fact that it is now possible 
for macOS users to do that seems to make macOS the target of belligerent 
attacks from time to time.

I have considered trying to build a binary package for linux, but I am 
currently leaning towards using AppImage rather than Snap.  If you have 
experience relevant to choosing between those I would be interested in 
hearing about it (off-list, of course).

- Marc


On Sunday, August 25, 2024 at 2:29:44 AM UTC-5 "Dima" wrote:

Please post your config.log

CertIainly Sage does build and run on all sorts of Linux systems. But it's 
getting more and more bloated to support macOS, and this gets in the way 
of Linux.

Dima


On 24 August 2024 09:54:53 BST, "Laël" wrote:

Except the latest conda binary version is sage 10.3 not 10.4 which lack the 
optional order= parameter on the log function on pari’s ffelt 
implementation.

In my case, the finite field’s order is very hard to factor so it’s 
impossible to solve my problem in old version of sagemath which is why I 
can’t just install an old package.

Sincerely,

Le vendredi 23 août 2024 à 05:37:22 UTC+2, Nathan Dunfield a écrit :

I recommend you install SageMath via Conda:

https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/installation/conda.html#install-from-conda-forge

In my experience, this method "just works" even on seriously old and cranky 
Linux distros.

Best,

Nathan

On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 12:32:08 PM UTC-5 "Laël" wrote:

Even by following this guide 
<https://sagemanifolds.obspm.fr/install_ubuntu.html> on a fresh minimal ᴠᴍ, 
whether it’s on red hat or Debian or Ubuntu, the resulting sagelib doesn’t 
load :
I’m meaning simply typing
from sage import *

on a python prompt triggers a segfault.

Of course this means building docs fails. Here’s the logs attached with lot 
of warnings.

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