On 14 April 2024 19:14:51 BST, Matthias Koeppe <matthiaskoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>When I completed the NumFOCUS application yesterday, I had to go through
>the past years of sage-devel posts to answer the new question "Where do you
>host conversations about project development and governance (e.g. mailing
>lists, forums, etc.), and how many participants do you have?" (see
>https://github.com/sagemath/sage/wiki/NumFOCUS#q16-where-do-you-host-conversations-about-project-development-and-governance-eg-mailing-lists-forums-etc-and-how-many-participants-do-you-have)
>
>While doing so, I also collected the sage-devel threads in which packages
>were proposed to be added as standard packages, following our project's
>procedures:
This is not an answer. I would like an explanation why Sage the distro has to
grow the bloat at ever increasing speed, why you think it is sustainable, but,
most of all, why "batteries included" is meaningful in 2024, and why these
procedures must stay as they are.
I understand that some macOS users are very comfortable with Sage the distro
playing the role of a missing macOS package manager, but it makes me sad that
I spent many months of my time debugging and improving Sage on macOS, and
getting this kind of cold shoulder in response to my requests.
Dima
>- "Add pplpy and gmpy2 as standard packages"
>(https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/qoxVng1__0A/m/4HntWHp_AQAJ,
>2018-02)
>- "Make giacpy_sage a standard package"
>(https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/uYXGzG_py28/m/4SN5hts4FQAJ,
>2020-02)
>- "Add tox as a standard package"
>(https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/G5kMggTecA8/m/2aTZSt_AAwAJ,
>2020-09)
>- "Making cmake a standard package"
>(https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/Ccumny9Yioc/m/litCsb6gAwAJ,
>2021-07)
>- "New standard package: GNU Info"
>(https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/aIx8i-0MRo4/m/4WxL64JlBAAJ,
>2021-07)
>- "Add more-itertools as a standard package"
>(https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/Dq83PiiCAsU/m/43WX3JgjDgAJ,
>2021-12)
>- "Make Jupyterlab a standard package"
>(https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/orUpb-YXIHk/m/d_zDX3xyDQAJ,
>2022-03)
>- "Make Furo a standard package"
>(https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/VTU_I-ecPlA/m/KMd9cMX9AQAJ,
>2022-08)
>- "Make ipympl a standard package"
>(https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/fRufANUCNdY/m/RKhnlUYdAgAJ,
>2023-09)
>
>Our project's procedures have not changed.
>
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