Thanks a lot, William. 
I've submitted our application to NumFOCUS today to meet the Apr 15 
deadline. 
I'll keep everyone posted as soon as I hear anything back.

On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 9:05:36 AM UTC-7 William Stein wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I also strongly support this initiative for Sage to join NumFocus at this 
> point in time.  
>
> Regarding Cython, I made up the name in maybe 2008, and started it as a 
> project by combining "Pyrex" that Greg Ewing worked on periodically, 
> my own fork of Pyrex that had features I added that were needed for Sage, 
> and  Stefan Behnel's fork that was needed for lxml.
> Robert Bradshaw (my phd student at the time) and Craig Citro (my postdoc) 
> then started working on it, and they added a huge amount
> of functionality, e.g., they fully implemented closures, which was 
> nontrivial; also, I remember they added some type 
> inference optimizations, and generally greatly improved the unit testing.  
> I've cc'd Robert and Craig in case they want to add anything.
> Sage has always been I think by far the biggest Cython user, and testing 
> of Cython by Sage helps ensure better stability and quality.
>
>  -- William
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 8:50 AM David Roe <roed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I support Matthias' initiative to join NumFocus.  Looking at the 
>> application <https://github.com/sagemath/sage/wiki/NumFOCUS>, there are 
>> only a few todo items:
>> * Describe the shared history with Cython and IPython.  This doesn't need 
>> to be extensive, but would be useful.
>> * If we update the code of conduct in #37501 
>> <https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/37501>, we should update the 
>> dates when the code of conduct was last modified.
>>
>> There is also discussion at the bottom about Sage's governance structure, 
>> but I don't think that's required for an affiliated project.
>> David
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 3:37 PM Matthias Koeppe <matthia...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think one needs to read between the lines. Per 
>>> https://jupyter.org/governance/linux-proposal.html#project-jupyter-s-needs 
>>> it's about funding goals in the $1-$2 million range + permanent staffing + 
>>> support for "operating" (which is described there as "legal/trademark, 
>>> marketing, fundraising, accounting, contracts, internships, events, dev 
>>> ops, etc.")
>>> None of these seem relevant for our current effort to become a NumFOCUS 
>>> affiliated project.
>>>
>>> But as there is a sudden sign of life in this thread, let me point out 
>>> that I have an expanded version of the initial proposal draft:
>>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/wiki/NumFOCUS and I welcome discussion 
>>> here and collaborative editing in the wiki page. 
>>> I'll submit by the next target date (Apr 15).
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 11:28:38 AM UTC-8 kcrisman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 2:08:07 PM UTC-5 William Stein wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Related to NumFOCUS, this new proposal for Jupyter to restructure their 
>>>> relationship with NumFocus is possibly relevant:
>>>>
>>>> https://jupyter.org/governance/linux-proposal.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interesting, and certainly relevant.  It's a little unclear to me why 
>>>> NumFOCUS is not appropriate for them, other than a vague reference to 
>>>> operations - can anyone read between the lines for those of us not as 
>>>> plugged into that world?
>>>>
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