By looking at the pari-jupyter page on PYPI I learned that it was written 
by Jeroen Demeyer and is maintained by the SageMath Developers.  So I guess 
I don't understand what the relation is between SageMath and pari-jupyter.  
Will pari-jupyter be competing with the kernel that Bill Allombert is 
writing?  Is there a reason why he is writing a kernel when one already 
exists?  Obviously I have no idea what I am talking about and am publicly 
revealing my ignorance.

- Marc


On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-5 Marc Culler wrote:

> I wasn't advocating anything like that.  Certainly I don't think that 
> pari-jupyter should be "killed".  I am assuming that pari-jupyter is or 
> will be a package that can be installed with pip.  And I am also assuming 
> that it has no direct interaction with Sage.  Are those assumptions wrong?  
> If not, what benefit does the pari-jupyter project get from having it 
> available as a sage spkg?
>
> A question of more relevance to me is: do I need to add pari-jupyter to 
> the Sage_macOS binary package, even though it could be installed separately 
> by just running pip?  (We try to add all optional packages the we can 
> build.). If installing pari-jupyter creates a kernel specification 
> directory in /usr/local/share (as we do for the Sage kernel), then it will 
> appear as an available kernel when jupyter is launched from the SageMath 
> app, whether or not the location of the kernel is inside the app bundle.  
> How does it improve our user's experience to have the package installed 
> inside of the app bundle, as opposed to in the user's Library/Python 
> directory or inside the python.org framework?  While this question is 
> specific to me, I think the same question applies to SageMath.
>
> - Marc
>
>
> On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 12:13:34 PM UTC-5 Matthias Koeppe wrote:
>
>> Let me just point out that the idea that "grant has ended, so we can kill 
>> its deliverables" is fundamentally flawed, and certainly is not and cannot 
>> be the position of our project.
>>
>> Infrastructure grants are exactly set up for their longer-term and 
>> broader impacts. 
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>> On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 5:58:47 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see any reason for pari-jupyter being a sage package. It has 
>>> nothing in common with sagelib, it's a standalone jupyter kernel for 
>>> Pari-GP.
>>> It has ended up in sage in OpenDreamKit times, to make granting agency 
>>> happy.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 8:42 AM Edgar Costa <edgardi...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill Allombert has been working on a kernel via xeus:
>>>> https://pari.math.u-bordeaux.fr/git/xeus-gp.git/
>>>> Which addresses many of the issues with the current one.
>>>> While we for its first stable release, I recommend mine: 
>>>> https://github.com/edgarcosta/gp_kernel/
>>>> where I have addressed many of the issues, by going through the route 
>>>> that every cell is a temporary file, which is loaded in gp.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 4:29 AM Matthias Koeppe <matthia...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> - https://pypi.org/project/pari-jupyter/1.4.3rc1/
>>>>> - I've added simple CODE_OF_CONDUCT and CONTRIBUTING files that just 
>>>>> point to the main sagemath repository
>>>>> - using WIP sage-project-cookiecutter to simplify maintenance 
>>>>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/37541
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