On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 12:46 PM Murray Eisenberg
<murrayeisenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As strictly an end-user of Sage, and only on macOS, I find the prospect of 
> not being able to download a binary (not even from 
> https://github.com/3-manifolds/Sage_macOS/releases) repellent. And providing, 
> only a Docker image instead, equally repellent. The probability is large that 
> I would abandon Sage if binaries were not available.

I was also really disturbed when I saw the subject of this post.  However,
upon closer inspection, I suspect that the subject "Proposal: Stop
providing binary distributions" of this
thread requires clarification.   The actual proposal at the trac ticket is
"Installation manual: Remove mention of Sage-mirror-hosted binary
distributions", and to instead explicitly point to several (often
better) sources of binary distributions.  For example,

https://github.com/3-manifolds/Sage_macOS/releases

is NOT a "sage-mirror-hosted binary distribution".  I think what the
3-manifolds people
provide is exactly the sort of third party binary distribution of Sage
that Matthias is proposing
to *better* advertise, highlight and emphasize in the Sage docs.

Matthias, correct me if I'm wrong, but are you proposing that we just a
better job at pointing users to binary distributions of Sage such as
https://github.com/3-manifolds/Sage_macOS/releases, conda-forge, and
of course any packaging of Sage for Linux distros, etc., instead of
pointing them at binaries that don't work?

Instead of "Proposal: Stop providing binary distributions" maybe your
proposal is:

"Proposal: Group X will stop providing binary distributions, and instead
much more strongly encourage and advertise the work of groups
Y, Z, etc... to provide binary distributions" ?

This is all about just acknowledging limits and spreading the
workload more broadly, and also doing a better job at encouraging
users toward the fantastic work of
https://github.com/3-manifolds/Sage_macOS/releases,
the conda project, gentoo, etc...


> On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 5:41:58 PM UTC-5 emanuel.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Mixed feelings... See my comments on the ticket.
>>
>> Le samedi 8 janvier 2022 à 20:10:15 UTC+1, Matthias Koeppe a écrit :
>>>
>>> Comments/review please in https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/33131
>>>
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