On Wed, 25 Aug 2021, 19:37 Nils Bruin, <nbr...@sfu.ca> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 25 August 2021 at 03:19:15 UTC-7 dim...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The main problem of pynac is not that the present setup makes it hard to
>> work on symbolic issues, but that Sage depends on it at all.
>>
> Aren't these separate issues? It may be the case that we should switch
> symbolic engine (which is a big job!), but without a candidate that's not
> something we can plan on right now.
>

symengine appears to be such a candidate:
https://symengine.org/



So, it looks to me we're bound to pynac for the foreseeable future. Since
> sage is the sole user of pynac, any work on pynac will happen in the
> context of sage. From that perspective, putting the code itself in the sage
> source seems to make sense. Doing so doesn't preclude throwing it out later
> (although it might grow other dependencies, making that harder).
>
> So, perhaps we should make a quick assessment if moving to another
> symbolic engine is something that's on the horizon? Sympy has grown ...
> would that be sufficiently high-performance? (Sage has changed symbolic
> engines before and it is a huge pain. It will cause all kinds of
> incompatible changes to happen that are very hard to patch up -- and
> patching some of them will be very unattractive because
> backwards-compatibility changes tend to ruin the conceptual consistency of
> the new solution)
>
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