"Dual" refers to libstdc++ here, i.e. you only have one standard library supporting both abi's.
Other libraries generally are only one or the other, this is what is controlled by the -D_GLIBCXX_USE_CXX11_ABI; Theoretically you could make your own dual-abi library but you'd have to plaster __attribute__((abi_tag("cxx11"))) everywhere, so hell no. What I'm saying is: if you provide the same value for -D_GLIBCXX_USE_CXX11_ABI as what was used for the system givaro then you should be able to link them together. On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 2:27:44 PM UTC+2 dim...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 11:24:23 AM UTC+1 Volker Braun wrote: > >> This is c++11 dual abi, see >> https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/manual/using_dual_abi.html >> >> IMHO we just shouldn't use the system version then, but building Sage >> with -D_GLIBCXX_USE_CXX11_ABI=0 should allow you to link with old-style abi >> libraries. >> >> The default value of _GLIBCXX_USE_CXX11_ABI can be changed by the distro, >> which is probably what accounts for the differences seen in this thread. >> > > Are you saying it's a bug in Fedora 32, they should have provided dual > ABI, like Gentoo does, but they don't? > Or that they provide an old-style ABI, and we can use ` > -D_GLIBCXX_USE_CXX11_ABI=0` to make this work for Sage? > Isn't c++11 "old" nowadays? > > I tried to write a short C++ code do produce this error, so that we can > put it into our gcc/spkg-configure.m4, but I cannot > figure it out. > > > > >> >> >> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 7:01:13 PM UTC+2 Steven Trogdon wrote: >> >>> Building Givaro on Gentoo I have >>> >>> CXXFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -march=native -O2 -pipe -fabi-version=6 -msse >>> -msse2 -msse3 -mssse3 -msse4.1 -msse4.2 -mavx >>> >>> Your Redhat has >>> >>> CXXFLAGS=-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Werror=format-security >>> -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wp,-D_GLIBCXX_ASSERTIONS -fexceptions >>> -fstack-protector-strong -grecord-gcc-switches >>> -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1 >>> -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-annobin-cc1 -m64 -mtune=generic >>> -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fstack-clash-protection -fcf-protection >>> >>> Could the abi-version=6 be the issue? >>> >>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 6:01:02 AM UTC-6 dim...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> one has >>>> https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//packages/givaro/4.1.1/1.fc32/data/logs/x86_64/build.log >>>> and other logs there >>>> >>>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 12:45:07 PM UTC+1 Dima Pasechnik wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 12:34:11 PM UTC+1 François Bissey wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What compiler and flags have used to compile fedora 32 givaro? Can we >>>>>> easily find out? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> the compiler used to build Sage is g++ 10.2.1 >>>>> >>>>> $ g++ -v >>>>> Using built-in specs. >>>>> COLLECT_GCC=/usr/bin/g++ >>>>> COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/10/lto-wrapper >>>>> OFFLOAD_TARGET_NAMES=nvptx-none >>>>> OFFLOAD_TARGET_DEFAULT=1 >>>>> Target: x86_64-redhat-linux >>>>> Configured with: ../configure --enable-bootstrap >>>>> --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++,ada,go,d,lto --prefix=/usr >>>>> --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-bugurl= >>>>> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla --enable-shared >>>>> --enable-threads=posix --enable-checking=release --enable-multilib >>>>> --with-system-zlib --enable-__cxa_atexit --disable-libunwind-exceptions >>>>> --enable-gnu-unique-object --enable-linker-build-id >>>>> --with-gcc-major-version-only --with-linker-hash-style=gnu >>>>> --enable-plugin >>>>> --enable-initfini-array --with-isl --enable-offload-targets=nvptx-none >>>>> --without-cuda-driver --enable-gnu-indirect-function --enable-cet >>>>> --with-tune=generic --with-arch_32=i686 --build=x86_64-redhat-linux >>>>> Thread model: posix >>>>> Supported LTO compression algorithms: zlib zstd >>>>> gcc version 10.2.1 20201125 (Red Hat 10.2.1-9) (GCC) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > On 8/05/2021, at 23:31, Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > With system Givaro, one gets >>>>>> > >>>>>> > [dochtml] ImportError: >>>>>> /home/scratch2/dimpase/sage/sage/local/lib64/python3.8/site-packages/sage/matrix/ >>>>>> matrix_modn_sparse.cpython-38-x86_64-linux-gnu.so: undefined symbol: >>>>>> _ZNK6Givaro7IntegercvNSt7__cxx1112basic_stringIcSt11char_traitsIcESaIcEEEB5cxx11Ev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > make[3]: *** [Makefile:2280: doc-html] Error 1 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > which demangled says >>>>>> > >>>>>> > $ c++filt >>>>>> _ZNK6Givaro7IntegercvNSt7__cxx1112basic_stringIcSt11char_traitsIcESaIcEEEB5cxx11Ev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > Givaro::Integer::operator std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, >>>>>> std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >[abi:cxx11]() const >>>>>> > >>>>>> > The system library has Givaro::Integer::operator >>>>>> std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, >>>>>> std::allocator<char> >() const >>>>>> > >>>>>> > (no of that weird [abi:cxx11] qualifier) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Any ideas how to fix this? (besides not using system Givaro) ? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Dima >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "sage-devel" group. >>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/b187faf3-50c4-42c4-ae37-77c5a3902bbcn%40googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/4671c351-5503-48d4-8b52-635a238ec78dn%40googlegroups.com.