Hi all,

since I’m not one of the >>old boys<< in sagemath, I read some background when 
this mailthread began.
Then I went to CoCalc and searched for something like >>imprint<< oder >>legal 
notice<<, since I live in the EU and wanted to know If I could recommend using 
this with students. I found NOTHING by direct search. Or more exactly, 
different contradicting information, like being based in Delaware and at the 
same time in Seattle.

So, also with no offence of course, I must say that I find this at least 
problematic and intransparent and that it leaves me with open questions.

Then, I also had a look at the sagemath page, and no imprint there also …
at least some info about how the project is financed is there, but some GDPR 
stuff would perhaps be a good idea. And in the context of transparency it would 
also be good to know who is giving money to the project. Think of Chinese 
(nothing against Chinese Companys! I don’t care who of the 2, the Chinese or 
the NSA, or somebody else, try spying after me) companys financing chairs at US 
universities etc., but, to be honest, I didn’t look if this information was 
available, I had no time. Does anyone of you know?

And I agree that the icons should be unique and clear.

Doris



> On 20. Nov 2020, at 00:33, 'Travis Scrimshaw' via sage-devel 
> <sage-devel@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> First, let me acknowledge my respect and admiration to William for his 
> contributions both to Sage and for having such a great service such as 
> CoCalc. However, I must also disagree with having this being linked with the 
> Sage logo as these are separate entities both in their mission and content. I 
> agree with Dima that it should be with the CoCalc icon and SageMathCell 
> should also get a similar sized icon. We will then have a prime number of 
> icons, and a little more care will be needed for their layout. However, that 
> is a minor issue IMO.
> 
> Best,
> Travis
> 
> 
> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 8:22:00 PM UTC+10 dim...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 1:41 PM Frédéric Chapoton <fchap...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > If you look at https://www.sagemath.org/ 
> > you can see four links to cocalc, one of them hidden behind the icon 
> > "sage". 
> This icon should be replaced by CoCalc's icon: 
> https://cocalc.com/img/cocalc-icon.svg 
> And a SageMathCell getting a similarly sized icon. 
> Or perhaps making this icon a link to SageCell, and placing CoCalc 
> icon next to it. 
> 
> 
> > 
> > So, taking great care to acknowledge first all that William did and the 
> > fact that Harald is currently maintaining the website, should we just 
> > accept this without any kind of discussion ? 
> > 
> > Maybe cocalc could become one of our sponsors, as a display of explicit and 
> > permanent friendship ? 
> > 
> > Frédéric 
> > 
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