On Feb 13, 2008 2:09 PM, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 13-Feb-08, at 12:28 PM, William Stein wrote:
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> >
> > On Feb 13, 2008 9:57 AM, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 13-Feb-08, at 6:06 AM, John Cremona wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I just discovered sage.rings.arith.discrete_log_generic(), not until
> >>> after implementing a similar function for elliptic curves over
> >>> finite
> >>> fields (patch to be submitted before too long).  I thought it was a
> >>> pity that we cannot apparently use the same code for dlogs in an
> >>> additive group (as in what I just wrote) and a multiplcative one (as
> >>> in discrete_log_generic()).  Could we?
> >>
> >> At this time, not easily.
> >
> > I think it would be trivial.  Just pass in a function of two
> > arguments called
> > "mul" instead of using "*".   It's the same way Python's sort works.
> > (One should probably also pass in a pow function.)
>
> John also needs identity and inverses, which requires passing in
> three or functions.  Or, more likely a struct, which in an OO
> language, I call an object.
>
> To me, that means you're writing a special purpose "abstract group"
> wrapper for discrete logs, which is fine.  But I believe the heavier
> categorical stuff is intended to make doing this much more general
> and pervasive throughout the system.  Doing one instance ad-hoc is
> easy; doing the general case is not easy (imho).

And doing the general case is easier if you do one instance  :-)

William

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