Thank you! That is very useful to know!
Marc helped me more and I have gotten it working again!

Thank you!

                                       Best,
                                       Kannappan


---------
*Kannappan Sampath*
*Graduate Student*

Department of Mathematics | University of Michigan
kn...@umich.edu


On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 4:03 AM Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 3:01 AM Kannappan Sampath <kn...@umich.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone:
> >
> > After some poking around (and hat tip from Marc Masdeu), I notice that
> the source for the error might be in part due to the following:
> >
> >
> > [knsam@gl-login1 magma]$ echo $SAGE_ROOT
> > /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1
> >
> > For some reason, sage is looking in $SAGE_ROOT/lib/sage/ext_data/magma/
> and from what I can see, in my installation, there is no such thing.
> However, I do notice that the file containing the commands that would make
> this run namely basic.m is in
> >
> > $SAGE_ROOT/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/ext_data/magma/
> >
> > Does this mean that I should somehow recompile sage with a different
> SAGE_ROOT, or teach Sage to look here instead when it wants to fool around
> with magma? Any help fixing it would be appreciated. Thank you!
>
>
> Sage looks for Magma stuff in SAGE_EXTCODE/magma/, where SAGE_EXTCODE
> value may be inspected by
>
> sage: from sage.env import SAGE_EXTCODE
> sage: SAGE_EXTCODE
>
>
> on my installation I see the latter showing
> '/mnt/opt/Sage/sage-dev/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/ext_data'
> (where SAGE_ROOT==/mnt/opt/Sage/sage-dev/)
>
> What is the value of SAGE_EXTCODE in your case?
> It should be $SAGE_ROOT/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/ext_data/
>
> If it's not, it has to be set to the correct value.
>
> > On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 12:15:44 PM UTC-4 Kannappan Sampath
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello everyone:
> >>
> >> I am trying to compute with Eichler orders in a definite quaternion
> algebra and consequently would like for Sage and Magma to talk to each
> other.  I am using Sage version 9.1 and Magma version V2.25-2. I think that
> Sage is able to discover the Magma installation (eg. magma_console() works).
> >>
> >> However, in my installation, somehow many of the basic Sage<->Magma
> interface commands are broken. For example:
> >>
> >> sage: magma(1).sage()
> >>
> >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> RuntimeError                              Traceback (most recent call
> last)
> >>
> >> <ipython-input-26-1c79c0c0379c> in <module>()
> >>
> >> ----> 1 magma(Integer(1)).sage()
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/interface.py
> in sage(self, *args, **kwds)
> >>
> >>    1085             [0 0]
> >>
> >>    1086         """
> >>
> >> -> 1087         return self._sage_(*args, **kwds)
> >>
> >>    1088
> >>
> >>    1089     def __repr__(self):
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/magma.py
> in _sage_(self)
> >>
> >>    2062             Ring of integers modulo 137
> >>
> >>    2063         """
> >>
> >> -> 2064         z, preparse = self.Sage(nvals=2)
> >>
> >>    2065         s = str(z)
> >>
> >>    2066         preparse = str(preparse) == 'true'
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/magma.py
> in __call__(self, *args, **kwds)
> >>
> >>    1680                                [self._obj.name()] + list(args),
> >>
> >>    1681                                params=kwds,
> >>
> >> -> 1682                                nvals=nvals)
> >>
> >>    1683
> >>
> >>    1684     def _instancedoc_(self):
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/magma.py
> in function_call(self, function, args, params, nvals)
> >>
> >>    1163         fun = "%s(%s%s)" % (function, ",".join([s.name() for s
> in args]), par)
> >>
> >>    1164
> >>
> >> -> 1165         return self._do_call(fun, nvals)
> >>
> >>    1166
> >>
> >>    1167     def _do_call(self, code, nvals):
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/magma.py
> in _do_call(self, code, nvals)
> >>
> >>    1218             vars = ", ".join(v)
> >>
> >>    1219             cmd = "%s := %s;" % (vars, code)
> >>
> >> -> 1220             out = self.eval(cmd)
> >>
> >>    1221             ans = tuple([MagmaElement(self, x, is_name=True)
> for x in v])
> >>
> >>    1222
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/magma.py
> in eval(self, x, strip, **kwds)
> >>
> >>     561         ans = Expect.eval(self, x, **kwds).replace('\\\n', '')
> >>
> >>     562         if 'Runtime error' in ans or 'User error' in ans:
> >>
> >> --> 563             raise RuntimeError("Error evaluating Magma
> code.\nIN:%s\nOUT:%s" % (x, ans))
> >>
> >>     564         return ans
> >>
> >>     565
> >>
> >>
> >> RuntimeError: Error evaluating Magma code.
> >>
> >> IN:_sage_[33], _sage_[16] := Sage(_sage_[24]);
> >>
> >> OUT:
> >>
> >> >> _sage_[33], _sage_[16] := Sage(_sage_[24]);
> >>
> >>                              ^
> >>
> >> User error: Identifier 'Sage' has not been declared or assigned
> >>
> >>
> >> sage: R.<y> = PolynomialRing(QQ)
> >>
> >> sage: S = magma(R)
> >>
> >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> RuntimeError                              Traceback (most recent call
> last)
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/expect.py
> in __init__(self, parent, value, is_name, name)
> >>
> >>    1470             try:
> >>
> >> -> 1471                 self._name = parent._create(value, name=name)
> >>
> >>    1472             # Convert ValueError and RuntimeError to TypeError
> for
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/interface.py
> in _create(self, value, name)
> >>
> >>     501         name = self._next_var_name() if name is None else name
> >>
> >> --> 502         self.set(name, value)
> >>
> >>     503         return name
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/magma.py
> in set(self, var, value)
> >>
> >>     628         """
> >>
> >> --> 629         out = self.eval("%s:=%s" % (var, value))
> >>
> >>     630         if out.lower().find("error") != -1:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/magma.py
> in eval(self, x, strip, **kwds)
> >>
> >>     562         if 'Runtime error' in ans or 'User error' in ans:
> >>
> >> --> 563             raise RuntimeError("Error evaluating Magma
> code.\nIN:%s\nOUT:%s" % (x, ans))
> >>
> >>     564         return ans
> >>
> >>
> >> RuntimeError: Error evaluating Magma code.
> >>
> >> IN:_sage_[17]:=SageCreateWithNames(PolynomialRing(_sage_ref2),["y"]);
> >>
> >> OUT:
> >>
> >> >> _sage_[17]:=SageCreateWithNames(PolynomialRing(_sage_ref2),["y"]);
> >>
> >>                ^
> >>
> >> User error: Identifier 'SageCreateWithNames' has not been declared or
> assigned
> >>
> >>
> >> During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
> >>
> >>
> >> TypeError                                 Traceback (most recent call
> last)
> >>
> >> <ipython-input-28-a5ee0ecd878c> in <module>()
> >>
> >> ----> 1 S = magma(R)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/magma.py
> in __call__(self, x, gens)
> >>
> >>     792             pass
> >>
> >>     793
> >>
> >> --> 794         A = Expect.__call__(self, x)
> >>
> >>     795         if has_cache:
> >>
> >>     796             x._magma_cache[self] = A
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/interface.py
> in __call__(self, x, name)
> >>
> >>     302             # user-assigned name might change its value, so we
> return a
> >>
> >>     303             # new element.
> >>
> >> --> 304             result = self._coerce_from_special_method(x)
> >>
> >>     305             return result if name is None else result.name
> (new_name=name)
> >>
> >>     306         except TypeError:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/magma.py
> in _coerce_from_special_method(self, x)
> >>
> >>     831         """
> >>
> >>     832         s = x._magma_init_(self)
> >>
> >> --> 833         a = self(s)
> >>
> >>     834
> >>
> >>     835         # dereference all _sage_ref's used in this string.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/magma.py
> in __call__(self, x, gens)
> >>
> >>     792             pass
> >>
> >>     793
> >>
> >> --> 794         A = Expect.__call__(self, x)
> >>
> >>     795         if has_cache:
> >>
> >>     796             x._magma_cache[self] = A
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/interface.py
> in __call__(self, x, name)
> >>
> >>     295
> >>
> >>     296         if isinstance(x, string_types):
> >>
> >> --> 297             return cls(self, x, name=name)
> >>
> >>     298         try:
> >>
> >>     299             # Special methods do not and should not have an
> option to
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/expect.py
> in __init__(self, parent, value, is_name, name)
> >>
> >>    1474             except (RuntimeError, ValueError) as x:
> >>
> >>    1475                 self._session_number = -1
> >>
> >> -> 1476                 raise_(TypeError, TypeError(*x.args),
> sys.exc_info()[2])
> >>
> >>    1477             except BaseException:
> >>
> >>    1478                 self._session_number = -1
> >>
> >>
> >> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/six.py in
> reraise(tp, value, tb)
> >>
> >>     690                 value = tp()
> >>
> >>     691             if value.__traceback__ is not tb:
> >>
> >> --> 692                 raise value.with_traceback(tb)
> >>
> >>     693             raise value
> >>
> >>     694         finally:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/expect.py
> in __init__(self, parent, value, is_name, name)
> >>
> >>    1469         else:
> >>
> >>    1470             try:
> >>
> >> -> 1471                 self._name = parent._create(value, name=name)
> >>
> >>    1472             # Convert ValueError and RuntimeError to TypeError
> for
> >>
> >>    1473             # coercion to work properly.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/interface.py
> in _create(self, value, name)
> >>
> >>     500     def _create(self, value, name=None):
> >>
> >>     501         name = self._next_var_name() if name is None else name
> >>
> >> --> 502         self.set(name, value)
> >>
> >>     503         return name
> >>
> >>     504
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/magma.py
> in set(self, var, value)
> >>
> >>     627             13/5
> >>
> >>     628         """
> >>
> >> --> 629         out = self.eval("%s:=%s" % (var, value))
> >>
> >>     630         if out.lower().find("error") != -1:
> >>
> >>     631             raise TypeError("Error executing Magma code:\n%s" %
> out)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> /sw/lsa/centos7/sage/9.1/lib/python3.7/site-packages/sage/interfaces/magma.py
> in eval(self, x, strip, **kwds)
> >>
> >>     561         ans = Expect.eval(self, x, **kwds).replace('\\\n', '')
> >>
> >>     562         if 'Runtime error' in ans or 'User error' in ans:
> >>
> >> --> 563             raise RuntimeError("Error evaluating Magma
> code.\nIN:%s\nOUT:%s" % (x, ans))
> >>
> >>     564         return ans
> >>
> >>     565
> >>
> >>
> >> TypeError: Error evaluating Magma code.
> >>
> >> IN:_sage_[17]:=SageCreateWithNames(PolynomialRing(_sage_ref2),["y"]);
> >>
> >> OUT:
> >>
> >> >> _sage_[17]:=SageCreateWithNames(PolynomialRing(_sage_ref2),["y"]);
> >>
> >>                ^
> >>
> >> User error: Identifier 'SageCreateWithNames' has not been declared or
> assigned
> >>
> >>
> >> Any ideas about how to debug the problem would be much appreciated.
> >>
> >>                                        Best,
> >>                                        Kannappan
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------
> >> Kannappan Sampath
> >> Graduate Student
> >>
> >> Department of Mathematics | University of Michigan
> >> kn...@umich.edu
>
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