On Dec 29, 2007 1:21 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Dec 29, 8:56 pm, "Alfredo Portes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 29, 2007 3:34 AM, mabshoff > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Since Sage is effectively (or, rather much more effectively) using > > > > the same strategy of making all of the systems available I thought > > > > it might be worthwhile to update the document with Sage information. > > > > You might consider making a Live CD of Sage. Doyen contains instructions > > > > and Alfredo Portes does excellent work. He has carefully documented > > > > the build process. > > > > > We used to have a live CD version, but the effort faltered, too. It > > > might be worth a try to recruit somebody around here who would like to > > > do that job. I looked at the Doyen project on sf.net and I couldn't > > > find any files, except a bunch of Axiom files and art work in SVN. I > > > guess > > > > > http://daly.axiom-developer.org/doyen/ > > > > > would be a better source of information ;) > > Hello, > > > Given that I was involved in the effort for a live cd for Sage, I would like > > to say something about it. > > > > I did make a livecd (graphical for sage), but I did not feel in the list > > any interest in it. I sent an email and there was no answer. I still think > > Tim's idea for Doyen is great, and currently there are more tools to create > > live cds than when he started the project. > > > > I consider the iso to be more versatile than the current Sage vmare image, > > because the iso can also be used inside the vmware
It may be more versatile, but it is substantially more complicated to actually use, especially because of maintaining the state of the Sage notebook server (which means one must setup a vmware machine with another image for Sage, setup Sage in the iso to somehow automatically use it, etc.). More versatile can be more complicated, hence worse for most users. > or be burned and boot > > with it if the user does not have such a program or do not want to install > > it. > > Sure. > > > Doyen and Sage livecd have been dormant for a while now, but I surely offer > > my help to do this if there is any interest in it. > > I assume the interest is there. Why do you assume that? Is there really interest? Alfredo has a very good point about that lack of interest last year when he posted the image... Do people really use Live CD's much / at all? I don't. I'm definitely not trying to discourage anyone unduly, but it would be a good idea to answer the above questions, especially when you're suggesting: > What ought to be done is to integrate > the build of the iso into the release process, preferably it ought to > be created locally on sagemath.org or sage.math. So, what needs to > happen to make this possible? Anything that makes the build / release of Sage more complicated, i.e., makes my life more complicated (or that of any release maintainer) better have a solid justification. At a minimum, we shouldn't start building live cd's for Sage if at least 5 people haven't yet requested them. Sorry if I sound at all negative. And if five people reading this would actually download and use an ISO for a LiveCD of Sage, please just respond to this thread. If there is real demand, I will be an incredibly strong proponent of a Sage LiveCD. -- William --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
