On Dec 10, 2007 12:12 PM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -1 > > > > Thanks for your perspective. However, I tend to disagree. > > > > The whole Sage development model is built on cooperation > > and to a huge extent that means trusting other people to help out, > > deciding on what people are good at and encouraging them > > to do just that, etc. When somebody > > comes to me and wants to contribute to Sage my top priority > > is to understand precisely what they love and are good at, > > instead of preaching to them about how everything is going > > to be their job. Here's a verbatim log from an irc session 2 hours ago > > to illustrate exactly: > > > Yes, that's true. But Tim point was that the opensource project, if it > wants to be successful, needs to do "boring" stuff, like releases, > documentation, easy to install, easy to run, etc. etc., otherwise, it > will die (am I correct Tim?). But I don't think printing CD belongs to > this cathegory these days with internet. And Sage is doing the other > things really, really well.
Re-reading Tim's post I think you're right, and that I misunderstood what Tim was writing. I certainly agree that it's important to do the "boring" stuff, though I think the best strategy is to find people for whom the boring things are NOT boring, e.g., you cite doing releases as boring, but I assure you certain people -- e.g., Michael Abshoff -- find them to be extremely exciting "I was born to do releases", he said in irc yesterday; and documentation, that may be boring to you, but David Joyner passionately loves writing good documentation, and I've seen other people, e.g., Emily Kirkman put quite a bit of passion into creating various nice docs for Sage. > > Look left. Look right. Ask the net. See any volunteers? No? > > Then the task is on your desk. > > > Is it important for the project? No? Ignore it. Yes? Do it. > > > It's ALL your job. > > I think I agree with this - but as I said, printing CD's belongs to "No". > > I think opensource project, if it wants to be successful, must do > things exactly as William has said. On the other hand, I think the > project also need people very motivated for the project to succeed > (and Sage has many imho). If there are still important jobs to be done > and no volunteer wants to do it, well, then some motivated people > behing Sage need to do it. But I am really not worried about this > aspect, what I saw on Sage Days 6, Sage is in good hands and so it > will imho succeed. > > Ondrej > > > > > -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
