On Dec 9, 7:04 am, "Ondrej Certik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, I was just going to say the same thing. planet.sagemath.org is
> the way to go. Besides developers blogs, there can also be an official
> blog (with several core sage developers having a write access to),
> where official things will be announced.
Sorry for being late to the party, but I always liked this idea. I
might even finally start blogging to be a part of it.
>
> Its true, that writing a blog requires time, but it's worthy and necessary.
>
> Ondrej
>
> On 12/9/07, alex clemesha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 8, 2007 8:09 PM, Yi Qiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Actually, depending on how many SAGE developers blog at all, we should
> > > consider a planet.sagemath.org style blog. The idea is the planet.*
> > > is an aggregator of blogs it subscribes to and publishes blogs with
> > > specific tags. For example, planet.sagemath.org would subscribe to
> > > Mike Hanson, Martin Albrecht, and Ondrej Certik's blog. Each time
> > > those people post something to their own blogs with the 'sage' tag, it
> > > will show up on planet.sagemath.org. Many open source communities use
> > > this. See the urls below for examples.
>
> > > The software that makes it happen is called PlanetPlanet
> > > (http://www.planetplanet.org/)
>
> > > Some projects that use this include:
>
> > > * Planet GNOME (planet.gnome.org)
> > > * Planet Debian (planet.debian.org)
> > > * Planet Twisted (planet.twistedmatrix.org)
>
> > > etc..You can see a more complete list at planetplanet.org.
>
> > Hey Yi, that's a really good idea.
>
> > Even Python has their own planet:
>
> > planet.python.org
>
> > and on the side bar of that page there is a link to
> > a bunch more planets ... basically there's a lot of gravity to this idea ;)
>
> > Alex
>
> > > On Dec 8, 2007 7:05 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 8, 2007 7:03 PM, Bobby Moretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > At the very least, I think it would be a good idea to use a content
> > > > > management system for the website.
>
> > > > That's a really good idea. Mike Hansen has been getting really
> > > > into Django lately, so maybe he can help with that. Using Django
> > > > would probably make a lot of sense.
Arrg, please, no content management system, at least not for the main
site. I have played around with them and for sites which have to
weather a slashdot storm (i.e. dynamic content bad) and need to be
mirrored out this is a big problem. Sure you can make some of the
content static and cache it, but that doesn't work too well in my
experience. And if we get slashdotted again somebody would need to
turn it on. But since you are already under load you need to get to
the machine in question. The ones around last night will remember that
it was next to impossible to transfer anything to and from sage.math
once we got hit there and that was only due to static content. Now
imagine the CPU time going nuts and you really have a problem.
In my personal experience CMS always also opens up security risks, the
php based ones are worst than the others. And to put it bluntly: they
all suck on way or the other. If we want more content stuff the
website in a hg repo and accept patches. That way it is easy to
contribute.
So: While I don't want to pee all over the CMS idea there is a lot
more to think about than it appears and issues like mirroring needs to
be sorted out before we go down that road. Anything database based
will cause problem and increase the technical expertise needed set up
mirrors, which is a bad thing. I would also likely drop out as a
mirror if I had to rely on somebody else patching some CMS to keep it
secure since I do not want another potential security breach vector on
the apcoca's project webserver.
[slightly grumpy] cheers,
Michael
>
> > > > > The front page could be blog-like, containing mostly news, updates,
> > > > > info, and releases.
>
> > > > Yep.
>
> > > > > Then if someone has a personal blog entry that says something
> > > > > interesting about Sage, we can just link to it from the front page as
> > > > > a news story. This way everything would be archived, etc.
>
> > > > I like this idea.
>
> > > > William
>
> > > > > On Dec 8, 2007 6:59 PM, didier deshommes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > 2007/12/8, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > > > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > > > My brother suggests that a "Sage blog" be somehow created (see
> > > below). It's
> > > > > > > a good idea. Any ideas about what this might entail? Weekly
> > > developer
> > > > > > > summaries? A "cool trick"? Little articles? Etc. I have never
> > > blogged
>
> > > > > > +1
> > > > > > This could also be good to announce new versions, improvements,
> > > papers
> > > > > > written in Sage, etc. Developers blogging about Sage could be fun:
> > > it
> > > > > > would expose how some other parts of the Sage code works (this would
> > > > > > also help Bus Days). For example, when I wrote QDRF, I blogged about
> > > > > > what one would need to do in order to implement (floating-point)
> > > > > > fields in Sage since I had learned a great deal about this part of
> > > the
> > > > > > code.
>
> > > > > > Of course, the thing with blogging is time :) . If you're blogging,
> > > > > > you're not writing code and sometimes you just can't afford that ;).
>
> > > > > > didier
>
> > > > > > > at all, but I know some of you (e.g., Martin Albrecht and Ondrej
> > > Certik)
> > > > > > > are old pros at blogging. Thoughts?
>
> > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > > > > From: Dennis Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Date: Dec 8, 2007 1:28 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: blog and rss
> > > > > > > To: William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > > > > > > William,
>
> > > > > > > Non-developer users of Sage might enjoy learning more about what
> > > is
> > > > > > > going on in the Sage world. A blog would be a great way to do
> > > this.
> > > > > > > You could post things like the AMS event, published articles, news
> > > of
> > > > > > > major changes in the software, upcoming cool new features,
> > > something
> > > > > > > funny that is Sage related, a profile of someone who has
> > > significantly
> > > > > > > contributed to the software, a user profile, and so on. People
> > > could
> > > > > > > subscribe to it via email or RSS. You could use a free blog
> > > service
> > > > > > > (webpress or blogspot or whatever) and use Google's free
> > > Feebburner
> > > > > > > for the email subscription service for people to subscribe.
>
> > > > > > >http://www.mathworks.com/company/rss/index.html
>
> > > > > > > Google has a blog that they post to about once every three weeks
> > > or so.
>
> > > > > > > Obviously making the software the best it can be is a bigger
> > > priority,
> > > > > > > but a blog could be useful at some point for keeping in touch with
> > > > > > > people (reporters, users, fans).
>
> > > > > > > --Dennis
>
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > William Stein
> > > > > > > Associate Professor of Mathematics
> > > > > > > University of Washington
> > > > > > >http://wstein.org
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Bobby Moretti
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > > --
> > > > William Stein
> > > > Associate Professor of Mathematics
> > > > University of Washington
> > > >http://wstein.org
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