I thought the problem is that no one has configured Apache on
sage.math to use SSL for use with sagenb.org and sagenb.com.

On 9/17/07, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sep 16, 2007, at 1:10 PM, Martin Albrecht wrote:
>
> >> For future reference, about 3-4 days ago I changed things so that the
> >> public notebook server:
> >>    (1) Doesn't use ssl at all, and
> >>    (2) Is at http://sagenb.org  (and another at http://
> >> sagenb.com), so
> >>          there is no funny business with ports.
> >> Thus the above setup shouldn't get blocked anywhere anymore.
> >> Obviously (1) means people could sniff password on the public
> >> notebook
> >> easily, but this really isn't too worrisome given that the thing
> >> is free,
> >> etc., so what should people expect?
> >
> > Did SSL slow down the machines that were running the public
> > notebook? Did you
> > run into scalability problems? If there is one lesson to be learned
> > from
> > it-sec than it is: people are amazingly stupid when it comes to it-
> > sec. If
> > you want to demonstrate that with SAGE you can easily work over the
> > network
> > using just a webbrowser (i.e. fullfill the promises of the webapps
> > buzz) it
> > is -- at least to me -- a requirement to not gamble with a user's
> > credentials. Using a non-encrypted login page is -- again, at least
> > to me --
> > a gamble with the user's credential. To sum up: I strongly vote for
> > re-enabling SSL encryption.
> >
> > Martin
>
> I would vote for having a checkbox on the login page of whether or
> not to use SSL, checked by default. Even though I wouldn't use a
> sensitive password, I think if we want people to post valuable
> content (e.g. in the whole publish worksheet context) we should make
> an reasonable effort to protect it (I'm not worried about sniffers,
> but here I think it's an appearance/trust thing as much as anything).
> On the other hand, we don't want to be blocking people who just want
> to try stuff out.
>
> I don't know about the pragmatics of serving via both http and https....
>
> - Robert
>
>
>
> >
>

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