On 8/7/07, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> The number of new downloads of SAGE per week have been roughly
> constant during the last 2-3 months.   The growth of SAGE is definitely
> not what I hoped for during my talk at SAGE Days 4.    Does anybody
> have any good ideas about how to increase the number of people
> downloading SAGE?   My hope is that this question will spark a relaxed
> but enthusiastic and positive open-ended brainstorming thread in which
> a lot of crazy ideas appear.

I think what might help (at least for the non-mathematicians) is examples
of the use of SAGE in applications. For example, Maple has its Maple
Application Centre and while I don't use Mathematica, I'm sure something
similar exists for it. Certainly MATLAB has something similar.

I'm finding SAGE difficult to use at time since most of the examples are
done for mathematicians. I tend to think my mathematics background
is fairly solid but I have no idea of rings and fields but these are all through
the examples in the documentation.

The linear algebra documentation doesn't show any examples with
symbolic components in the matrix, that would be a useful addition. I
haven't even been sure if it was possible until I saw an example
that somebody posted a little while back.

Maple has excellent documentation for programmers in its Introductory
Programming Guide and its Advanced Programming Guide. I learned
many new and useful things from these books, and I use those tricks
quite often. These are all related to manipulating equations, variables,
functions, and lists of equations. The documentation doesn't really
discuss manipulation of the low level structures. Are there SAGE
equivalents of things like op(), applyop(), indets(), GenerateMatrix()?

While I want to use SAGE considerably more than I do, I find myself
struggling with getting up to speed. I won't be able to convince people
to switch from Maple if I can't use SAGE for my regular work.

Cheers,

Tim Lahey

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