Wa alaykom assalem wa rahmato Allah, Great! I add sabily mailing list into cc for information, my comments are bellow yours:
2011/12/28 Nedim Hadzic <nedi...@gmail.com> > Alsalam Alaykom my brother**** > > InshaAllah Ayat will be licensed in the most flexible license available or > even we can make a special one which can briefed in (the point is you can > use it totally for free even for commercial usages ). That's the final > statement. Source code will be online just when author finish first > functional version, and after code consolidation and commenting. > --> brother Ahmed, I think that's fine like that in term of licences? > > About yesterday's talk about sourceforge and launchpad and mailing list, > conclusions are:**** > > ** ** > > - InshaAllah we will put on Ayat web site a bug tracking feature so > ordinary users can submit bugs reports and feature requests. Also there wil > be a FAQ page.**** > > ** ** > > - We agree with your proposal that Sabily group members can use > https://launchpad.net/ayat (which became a Sabily subproject, but not > exclusively) and Sabily mailing list for contribution, and not only for > Linux/BSD but for other platforms too (if you agree). > --> OK > **** > > ** ** > > - All conclusions (feature requests, bug reports or questions and anything > important) you can submit to my mail or at launchpad. Problem here is that > we're buried with much of work and we can't track all mails about Sabily > and subprojects from your mailing list. As I mentioned before Sabily is a > far bigger project, so it would be great if someone will forward us > messages about Ayat from Sabily mail list. Or if there is a feature on > launchpad which can keep on track by mail (I can't be always on > Launchpad)... If yo have any better idea please say.... > --> I will take the responsibility to inform you about sabily team suggestions, bug tracking, issues... I hope here that some of sabily team will join your team and participate in the development of Ayat, any one here is volunteer? time to work ;) > **** > > ** ** > > JazakAllah khair > wa iyyak > > **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > 2011/12/27 Nedim Hadzic <nedi...@gmail.com>**** > > - Maybe i'm a perfectionist, but I think just as you, and I want > it to be done in the same way as you. I really don't like that unwritten > and unspoken open source slogan „just make it work“. I was thinking that we > can get some dedicated responsible developers and or/maintainers for other > languages (if it's needed), not just everyone who know something about > programming and Air. **** > > - In attachment you can find Bosnian translation of Ayat web > site, and I want to mention that I was done some changes to Bosnian > interface translation of Ayat (and online version too), so it has to be > updated.**** > > - I propose to make an sourceforge page so we can report bugs > and new features, and where you can put all Ayat versions for download. > Source code , can be added later, for now it's not important. **** > > - Please tell me what is the licence of Ayat, GPL, BSD, or > something else... **** > > - Brother can you please tell when we can expect that first > functional version will be finished, just approximately? Alhamdulillah > everyone here are impatient to see it J **** > > - I strongly suggest (for future versions, of course) that we > release an integrated Ayat version, which will be integrated with some OSS > online learning platforms like: **** > > **** > > http://www.edulabs.org/en/products/opendesktop**** > > http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/**** > > https://www.webhuddle.com/**** > > http://lamsfoundation.org/**** > > http://bigbluebutton.org/overview**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* Mahmoud Hammam [mailto:engma...@gmail.com <engma...@gmail.com>] > *Sent:* Monday, December 26, 2011 11:32 AM**** > > > *To:* Nedim Hadzic > *Subject:* Re: Bosnian**** > > **** > > *Alsalam Alaykom , i'm working alone (except for the design), but > "AlHamdulellah" that i'm dedicated to this project so i dont receive tasks > out of the project. > > > i really think how to make Ayat continues project (for conditions like if > i have an accident or even sudden death) , so i'm trying to achieve a > version that is really stable and fully functional. the next step is to > take this stable version and offer it (after recoding it) for others to > contribute to it (i still believe that open source is not a magical > solution , so if u dont take care of many considerations it will be just > waste of time) and i dont want to take this step in a manner of (just make > it works " just make it open source " ), no i want this step to be useful > and benefical. > > > I've attached a php file contains phrases required for Ayat website; > > * > > **** > > 2011/12/26 Nedim Hadzic <nedi...@gmail.com>**** > > Wa alaykumussalaam my dear brother,**** > > **** > > How are you? Let me ask you about Ayat, are you work alone on it or there > is more brothers (and sisters I hope) who working on this project? I wanna > suggest to put Ayat and other offline resources like recitations on > Sourceforge so it can reduce server load. You don't have to put source code > on it yet, but we can use it for bug tracking which can be very useful.*** > * > > **** > > About tafseer, I never heared for Maududi before, and only available > electronic tafseer in Bosnian is Ibn Katheer (I checked that in the mean > time) and we are working on it since there is many things in current Word > and PDF formats that has to be extracted and modified for SQLite. A lot of > work.**** > > **** > > About projects... I believe in your stats about online version (you have > mentioned me before) but there is a big difference between ordinary random > users who visit the site and play with it some time and those who are in > class trying to learn something in 45 minutes. Even with ADSL, using online > version is quite annoying when you use it for more than 10 minutes – there > is a big latency in network and also some verses are bigger then other ones > e.g. verses from surah Baqarah and from Fatihah. Also it can be server > overload in some peak times. Thats why I insist and favorize the offline > version. However, it's up to you.**** > > **** > > I think we should speed up developement with current feature requests, > just to have one functional version so we can put the code online and > involve more brothers in developement for other future features like speech > recognition for disabled. Currently everything is on you, and you can't > clone yourself J**** > > **** > > Send me translation files for Ayat and Quran sites in any form.**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* Mahmoud Hammam [mailto:engma...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, December 26, 2011 8:33 AM > *To:* Nedim Hadzic > *Subject:* Re: Bosnian**** > > **** > > *Also i forgot to tell you that i've found a very good Quran Tafsir "Tafheem > ul Quran <http://www.quranenglish.com/tafheem_quran/>" by Maududi > (originally it's in Urdu but it's translated in many other languages) if > you can find it in Bosnian i think it will be very suitable, you can see it > now in the online version and In Shaa Allah i will add it also to the next > version of Ayat***** > > 2011/12/26 Mahmoud Hammam <engma...@gmail.com>**** > > *Alslam Alaykom , my dear brother how are you , > > > I'm trying to fix bugs found in the site as well as Ayat on daily basis, > but you know you have to balance efforts between project branches * > > *although Ayat has recorded very good success (now we have more than > 12,000 reported successful installations in addition to those who has no > internet access) , but still the online version is a more convenient way > for many users. > > About the domain quran.ksu....... , i think it's better because it's a > self explaining domain and this is also better for search engines. > * > *The tranlstions of the Ayat site now is based on a PHP array , if you > have the ability to deal with will i will send it to you otherwise i will > prepare it in a simpler form.***** > > **** > > 2011/12/25 Nedim Hadzic <nedi...@gmail.com>**** > > Assalamu alaykum brother Mahmoud,**** > > **** > > InshaAllah It will be comprehensively tested on Linuxes. One brother > tested it already but just to see if it works or not, and he found it has > working very well just like on windows. **** > > Thereby how is going bug solving from my reports last week? **** > > **** > > Can you please send me translation files (xml or txt UTF8 probably) for > Ayat and Quran web sites so I can translate it to Bosnian. We already added > subdomain http://ayat.darulkuran.org/ **** > > **** > > Also I wanna suggest you to name it both projects as Ayat – online and > offline version, not *quran*.ksu.edu.sa but *ayat*.ksu.edu.sa. Quran is > more generic and Ayat is the official name of program so it can be > recognized. Also I think that majority of users will use offline version so > that has to be the primary version, and *quran*.ksu.edu.sa should be be > subproject of project Ayat. Any way there is a slight difference between > them.**** > > **** > > Also design of current Ayat web site (quran.ksu.edu.sa/ayat) is a little > bit shady and murky. Unlike that, index page on quran.ksu.edu.sa is > really well designed (for many brothers here) and full of light, full of > life J**** > > > > -- **** > > يَوْمَ تَجِدُ كُلُّ نَفْسٍ مَّا عَمِلَتْ مِنْ خَيْرٍ مُّحْضَرًا وَمَا > عَمِلَتْ مِن سُوءٍ تَوَدُّ لَوْ أَنَّ بَيْنَهَا وَبَيْنَهُ أَمَدًا بَعِيدًا > ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ ۗ وَاللَّهُ رَءُوفٌ بِالْعِبَادِ**** > > **** > > > > -- **** > > يَوْمَ تَجِدُ كُلُّ نَفْسٍ مَّا عَمِلَتْ مِنْ خَيْرٍ مُّحْضَرًا وَمَا > عَمِلَتْ مِن سُوءٍ تَوَدُّ لَوْ أَنَّ بَيْنَهَا وَبَيْنَهُ أَمَدًا بَعِيدًا > ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ ۗ وَاللَّهُ رَءُوفٌ بِالْعِبَادِ**** > > **** > > > > -- **** > > يَوْمَ تَجِدُ كُلُّ نَفْسٍ مَّا عَمِلَتْ مِنْ خَيْرٍ مُّحْضَرًا وَمَا > عَمِلَتْ مِن سُوءٍ تَوَدُّ لَوْ أَنَّ بَيْنَهَا وَبَيْنَهُ أَمَدًا بَعِيدًا > ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ ۗ وَاللَّهُ رَءُوفٌ بِالْعِبَادِ**** > > **** > > > > -- **** > > يَوْمَ تَجِدُ كُلُّ نَفْسٍ مَّا عَمِلَتْ مِنْ خَيْرٍ مُّحْضَرًا وَمَا > عَمِلَتْ مِن سُوءٍ تَوَدُّ لَوْ أَنَّ بَيْنَهَا وَبَيْنَهُ أَمَدًا بَعِيدًا > ۗ وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ ۗ وَاللَّهُ رَءُوفٌ بِالْعِبَادِ**** > > ** ** > -- عبد المنعم كوكة Abdelmonam Kouka http://sabily-guru.blogspot.com/ http://geek-tounsi.blogspot.com/
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