On May 28, 5:18 pm, egervari <ken.egerv...@gmail.com> wrote: > One thing I don't necessarily like about Rails is that whenever you > want to do something that is out of the norm just a bit - but not > unreasonable by any means - the "how" is very different than what your > intuition would come up with. > > It's not a problem when you know the exceptions, but when you're > learning, this sort of irregularity and inconsistency on how to do > things makes it harder to learn - not easier. > > Java might be initially harder to learn, but it's way more consistent. > Your intuition can take you a lot further once you think in Java. This > is not true once you think in Rails. Rails is about memorization of > methods to call and memorization on how to do things. In java, you can > reason it out a lot more. > I'm slightly confused by you making comparisons between a language and a framework - I'm sure there are a wide variety of java web frameworks that all do things differently. I can't say I've ever found rails to be a tedious memorisation exercise. It just sounds like you don't understand enough about rails to let your intuition guide you. You might find that association callbacks are a good fit for your original problem (and callbacks of that sort are used fairly extensively in rails)
Fred. > I'm just disappointed. This is a reoccurring pattern for me - I want > do something that is just "a little more complex" than the framework > examples... and the "how" is inconsistent and takes 30 minutes or > maybe even hours to locate and find the answer for it. > > I realize I'm just learning Rails, but I have dozens of gotchas and > inconsistencies as I go through the framework and use it. This is not > accounting for weird gem errors, rake version problems, etc. If I only > kept track of a list of all the problems that probably shouldn't have > been problems to start with to illustrate what I am saying :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
