On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Fred Ballard <fredb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 to everything Walter has said, as well. > > I haven't thought about this a lot, but doesn't this apply to everything in > terms of user input? Doesn't this really enter the realm of a basic > guideline, principle, or law for UI? (I remember something like this being > applied to database design.) > > Don't make people enter data that they don't care about. > > Don't make people enter data that doesn't affect anything. > > Carefully evaluate whether people really need to enter data. > > If people feel free to enter garbage in a field, should that data > really be asked for? > > Aren't there, potentially, corollaries to this? For instance, Always allow > the people entering data to easily correct or remove their data. > Also, coming from one who has written address validation for credit reporting, you would not believe the complexity --- think of po boxes, boxes, railroad stops, prefixes/suffixes (w,nw,s,...), apartments, suites, rooms.... I dont remember exactly why I had to do it but it was one of those things I thanked god that I was using tdd :) > > Fred > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Philip Hallstrom <phi...@pjkh.com> wrote: > >> >> Walter >> >> Im using address to geocoding. Do you know if exists an address check >> >> plugin or gem to do this work? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Pedro >> >> >> > >> > I repeat my earlier point. If it's not valuable enough to the user, they >> will spam you like this. If your geocoder reports an error, then raise it to >> the user, tell him or her "sorry, having trouble with that location, could >> you check the address again?" >> > >> > You may be able to find a gem that wraps the USPS database, or FedEx's >> (with an API key from FedEx, and weeks of back-and-forth with their approval >> team). But it still gets back to the original "value to the user" question. >> What exactly do you give them in return for their successful entry of a real >> address? Do *they* think it's valuable? >> >> +1 for everything Walter has said about requiring it... >> >> Also... my memory is that yes the USPS has this ability, but it's not free >> (and quite expensive). Google can do it as well. Look into the >> geokit-rails stuff. It won't help with sanitizing the input, but it will >> turn it into a lat/long pair if it can. >> >> If location isn't super super important, just ask for their zip code. >> That's certainly granular enough to do "nearby" type functionality. >> >> Good luck! >> >> -philip >> >> >> >> > Walter >> > >> >> >> >> On 11 maio, 10:54, Walter Davis <wa...@wdstudio.com> wrote: >> >>> I don't think a regex can save you here. Ask yourself a higher-level >> >>> question. Why are you gathering the address information, and why isn't >> >>> it optional? If it's to send something of value to the person you're >> >>> requesting it from by postal mail, or if you're using it to help them >> >>> find something they need nearby their home, then rest assured they >> >>> will enter it with care. >> >>> >> >>> If it's anything less, you invite this sort of abuse, and you should >> >>> either just stop asking the question, or realize that a significant >> >>> percentage of entries will be "undeliverable" (to use the Post >> >>> Office's bloodless euphemism). >> >>> >> >>> By the way, I believe the USPS has an address checker API, IIRC, I've >> >>> used it from PHP before, and there may be a Gem wrapper for it as >> >>> well. Ditto FedEx if you're using them for delivery. >> >>> >> >>> Walter >> >>> >> >>> On May 11, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Pedro wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Hi there, >> >>> >> >>>> Anybody knows how to use regex to validate street name field? 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