Hi Med, 

Thanks for performing a detailed review early in the process. 

> On Jun 6, 2025, at 5:00 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Hi Acee, all, 
> 
> Sure. 
> 
> Overall,
> 
> (1) I understand that the module is not implemented. As such, it does not 
> make sense to go through useless intermediate deprecate/obsolete state. That 
> looks reasonable to me.

Thanks. 
> 
> (2) I strongly suggest that you add a new "Operational Considerations" that 
> will basically explain that there are no interoperability issues (with a 
> brief explanation of the rationale). Having this section will also save you 
> some comments. FWIW, you may grab some ideas at 
> https://ietf-opsawg-wg.github.io/draft-opsarea-rfc5706bis/draft-opsarea-rfc5706bis.html#name-migration-path.
>  I'm also ccing the authors of draft-opsarea-rfc5706bis in case you need more 
> advice on what to put in that section.
> 

I agree that this will save some time. 


> Please find below some more misc. comments:
> 
> # There are some few changes I think are worth to have in the module itself:
> 
> * Proposed changes: 
> https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/blob/master/YANG/ietf-vrrp.yang
> * Diff to track changes: 
> https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/commit/07006f320117f85a4029f69c61d449af37f6997d

These changes all look good to me. 


> 
> The changes are:
> * Add a list of updates since last iteration. Please note that we need a new 
> revision for this

You mean since RFC 8347 as opposed to the last draft update - right? I'll add 
this section documented the changes. I wanted to assure everyone agreed on the 
approach prior to writing this section. 

> * Add an explicit note for all the data nodes that were touched.

Yup. 

> * You have some broke references out there as the mapping between RFC9568 and 
> RFC5798 is not preserved for all sections (e.g.,1.2 ==> 1.3, 1.3 ==> 1.4)

Ok - I'll fix these. 

> 
> # I don't think we need to include the NIST as normative reference or even 
> mention it at all. We do have what we need in RFC9568 for VRRP. I would 
> shorten this part with a reference to RFC9568:
> 
>   The VRRP terminology has been updated conform to inclusive language
>   guidelines for IETF technologies.  The IETF has designated National
>   Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) "Guidance for NIST Staff
>   on Using Inclusive Language in Documentary Standards" [NISTIR8366]
>   for its inclusive language guidelines.  This document obsoletes VRRP
>   Version 3 [RFC8347].
> 
> Please note that NISTIR8366 link is broken.

Although I'm not in favor with the removal of the NIST document from the 
government site, I agree it would be good to remove the reference. 

> 
> # The new leaf "effective-priority" is not described in the narrative text, 
> nor mentioned as part of the new changes vs OLD RFC. You may explain why.

I'll include this is the section of changes. 



> 
> # Change RFC8407 to draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis


Sure. 

> 
> # IANA Considerations
> 
> Even if the module was published, the new version need to be registered. 
> 
> Please update as follows
> 
> OLD:
> 
> This simply a revision of the ietf-vrrp.yang model and no new IANA 
> allocations are required.
> 
> NEW:
> 
>    IANA is requested to update the following registration in the "ns"
>    registry within the "IETF XML Registry" group [RFC3688] to
>    reference this document:
> 
>       URI: urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-vrrp
>       Registrant Contact:  The IESG.
>       XML: N/A; the requested URI is an XML namespace.
> 
>    IANA is requested to register the following YANG module in the "YANG
>    Module Names" registry [RFC6020] within the "YANG Parameters"
>    registry group.
> 
>       Name: ietf-vrrp
>       Maintained by IANA?  N
>       Namespace: urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-vrrp
>       Prefix: vrrp
>       Reference: RFC XXXX

Ok - That makes sense since the document reference will be obsolete. 


> 
> # Security considerations
> 
> Please update to follow the template 
> https://netmod-wg.github.io/rfc8407bis/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis.html#name-security-considerations-sect


Sure. 

> 
> # References 
> 
> ## Please move RFC6020, RFC6241, RFC6242, RFC8040, RFC8446 from normative to 
> informative.

Sure. 

> 
> ## rfc3768 was obsoleted but is listed as normative. Please check.

I'll check. 

Thanks,
Acee 
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Cheers,
> Med (with no hat)
> 
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Acee Lindem <[email protected]>
>> Envoyé : lundi 26 mai 2025 22:22
>> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <[email protected]>;
>> Renato Westphal <[email protected]>
>> Cc : RTGWG <[email protected]>
>> Objet : RFC 8347 BIS - "A YANG Data Model for the Virtual Router
>> Redundancy Protocol (VRRP)"
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Mohamed, Renato,
>> 
>> Would it be possible to get a review of this BIS version of the
>> VRRP YANG model? The main impetus of the BIS was to remove the non-
>> inclusive language.
>> However, we have the opportunity to make other changes including
>> adding more operational state. I think it would be good to address
>> the substantive YANG comments prior to the IESG Telechat for a
>> change.
>> 
>> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fd
>> atatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-ietf-rtgwg-vrrp-
>> rfc8347bis%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cmohamed.boucadair%40orange.com%7C8db65
>> 279da234c2460a708dd9c92f177%7C90c7a20af34b40bfbc48b9253b6f5d20%7C0%
>> 7C0%7C638838877115533039%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOn
>> RydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyf
>> Q%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5RXenrqpWKnhaz1eHwhFMMABo0i%2BjQ7qfrVOQ5
>> 97tT4%3D&reserved=0
>> 
>> Note that we agreed to remove the deprecated data nodes so that the
>> non-inclusive language is removed in one RFC iteration as opposed
>> to three.
>> To date, no one has implemented the existing ietf-vrrp.yang model
>> with the data-nodes that cannot be named, so that plan is to leave
>> them or of the BIS version.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Acee
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