Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-problem-statement-41: Discuss

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DISCUSS:
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# Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for
draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-problem-statement-41

Thank you for the work put into this document, I can imagine the amount of work
with 41 versions :-) but after balloting several DISCUSS points, I stopped
reviewing it after section 3.7. I am also supportive of John's DISCUSS position.

Please find below several DISCUSS points, some non-blocking COMMENT points (but
replies would be appreciated even if only for my own education).

Special thanks to Joel M. Halpern for the shepherd's detailed write-up
including the WG consensus (`While there was not widespread support`) and the
justification of the intended status.

I hope that this review helps to improve the document,

Regards,

-éric

# DISCUSS (blocking)

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DISCUSS ballot is a request to have a discussion on the following topics:

## Copyright

Wrong template is used as `Simplified BSD License` should be "Revised BSD
License".

## Section 3.5

AFAIK, the ".internal" is not a special-use domain name listed by IANA (and
AFAIK not yet approved by ICANN), so, please be clear about this status (i.e.,
squatting a domain) in the document.

## Section 3.6

In 2024, such an I-D must care about IPv6 and not too much about IPv4 NAT.

If this document insists to use some commercial cloud references, then please
use also non-US-based cloud offerings.

## Section 3.7

What is `IPv6 optional header` ?


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# COMMENTS (non-blocking)

## Abstract

Like already noticed by other ADs, the date 2023 in the abstract is seriously
outdated, the document should be refreshed for content and the date moved to
2024. But, better having a date than no date at all...

## Section 2

`Third party Data Centers` I am not sure whether "3rd party" applies when the
cloud DC is used only by the employees.

`private clouds` should probably be defined to avoid any ambiguity.

Should "SD-WAN" be expanded ?

## Section 3

`This section identifies some high-level problems that the IETF could address`
sounds like the IETF has failed, please rephrase (e.g., using "IETF
Technologies").

## Section 3.1

Should `Public Cloud DCs` be explicitly defined ?

`to form an IP adjacency` unsure what IP adjacency means, the adjacency term is
often using for a layer-2 link between layer-3 nodes (e.g., OSPF), suggest
using iBGP.

More generally, the (valid) recommendations seem to apply to any peering and
not really related to cloud DC.

## Section 3.2

Please defined "pod".

I will welcome explanations about the 2nd paragraph.

I fail to see about EVPN is related to Cloud DC.

## Section 3.3

s/with an IP address/with IP addresses/ ?

Should the multiple interfaces (3GPP & Wi-Fi) issues be cited ?

## Section 3.4

Suggest to introduce the acronyms in section 2.

## Section 3.5

Please note that draft-ietf-add-split-horizon-authority is not about split
horizon DNS (even if it is related), please use another reference.

## Section 3.6

What is "AWS Direct Connect" ? or even what is "AWS" ? (to be honest, I know
but do not expect any IETF reader to know those commercial terms).



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