Hi Linda,

A few more comments.

You added the following:

The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
   "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this
   document are to be interpreted as described in [RFC2119].

Please use the correct template as per RFC 8174 under a separate “Requirements 
Language” section.



196       - When a Cloud DC eBGP session supports a limited number of

197           routes from external entities, the on-premises DCs need to set

198           up default routes and filter as many routes as practical

199           replacing them with a default in the eBGP advertisement to

200           minimize the number of routes to be exchanged with the Cloud DC

201           eBGP peers.



Jim> I do not understand the above paragraph. Is a Cloud DC different to an 
on-premise DC? Who is advertising default to who? The scenario that you are 
trying to convey above is non-obvious, at least to me, so please clarify.

[Linda] The statement is meant to emphasize when a cloud DC GW doesn’t  
multi-hop eBGP sessions with their peers, a tunnel should be established to 
achieve IP adjacency.

 For example, AWS Transit Gateway does not support traditional multi-hop eBGP 
sessions.  AWS recommends establishing eBGP sessions with third-party virtual 
appliances (like SD-WAN appliances) running in a VPC to  exchange routing 
information between on-premises network and multiple VPCs through a central 
point.



Jim> Okay but in the latest version of the document you do not clarify it or 
change any text. Reading the above paragraph I still cannot fathom from the 
text what you are trying to convey. Your explanation is not reflected in the 
text so again please try to clarify what you want the reader to understand.



202       - When a Cloud GW receives inbound routes exceeding the maximum

203           routes threshold for a peer, the currently common practice is

204           generating out-of-band alerts (e.g., Syslog entries) via the

205           management system or terminating the BGP session (with cease

206           notification messages [RFC4486] being sent). Although out of

207           the scope of this document, more discussion is needed in the

208           IETF Inter-Domain Routing (IDR) Working Group for potential in-

209           band or autonomous notification directly to the peers when the

210           inbound routes exceed the maximum routes threshold.



Jim> More explanation is needed here including a reference to section 4 of 
RFC4486 that describes the procedure for terminating a peering with a 
NOTIFICATION message and error code providing a reason e.g. “Maximum number of 
prefixes reached”.

[Linda] Azure doesn’t want BGP session to be terminated when max number of 
prefixes reached. Azure wants a method to notify the peers when the routes 
received exceeding some threshold. Today’s practice of using Syslog only 
informs Azure when max routes exceeded. But there is no effective way to notify 
peers to reduce routes. draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inbound-05 would be a good 
solution. But the draft is expired.

We are hoping to continue the draft by stating that  “more discussion is needed 
in the IETF Inter-Domain Routing (IDR) Working Group for potential in-band or 
autonomous notification directly to the peers when the inbound routes exceed 
the maximum routes threshold.”



Jim> Again, my original comment is not addressed in the latest version. At a 
minimum, a reference to section 4 of RFC4486 is needed.



Thanks!



Jim





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