Hi all,
My colleague and I have discussed the relationship between link protection 
schemes in Section 5.2 of the draft and "pinned  node" scheme in Section 5.3, 
and we would like to clarify this relationship.

If the link between the PLR and the pinned node fails, but the tail-end node 
does not fail, the scheme in Section 5.2 protects all traffic traffic even if 
the pinned node is the tail-end node of the SR LSP.

If the pinned node itself fails, the scheme defined SR LSPs for which the 
pinned note is NOT the tail-end, but does NOT protect SR LSPs for which the 
pinned node is the tail-end.

Does this mean that the PLR that supports both schemes SHOULD (or even MUST) 
differentiate between failure of a link that connets it to a pinned node and 
faikure of the pinned node itself in orfer to provide maximum possible 
protection?

Your feedback will be highly appreciated.

Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein



From: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 17:20
Subject: RE: Comments on draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa
To: Shraddha Hegde, [email protected], 
[email protected]


Hi Shraddha,

Thanks for your comments. The document is under RTGWG, then I’m adding rtgwg 
list.
Please find some replies inline


From: Shraddha Hegde [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 22:50
To: [email protected]; SPRING WG List
Subject: Comments on draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa

Dear Authors

I have the below comments on the draft.

1. Section 1.Introduction

   "This provides a major improvment compared to LFA
   ([RFC5286]) and remote LFA ([RFC7490]) which cannot be applicable in
   some topologies ([RFC6571])."

   Change to

   This provides a major improvement compared to LFA
   ([RFC5286]) and remote LFA ([RFC7490]) which cannot provide
   complete protection coverage in
   some topologies ([RFC6571]).

[SLI] Agree, will fix it


  2. I suggest to add a new section for building repair segments .
The text appears randomly and it is not very readable.
Suggest to re-arrange as below

  
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  5. Building Repair lists
              The repair list consist of node segments and adjacency segments 
which represents the
              protection path from PLR to the destination.


   o The active adjacency segments MUST be popped and the repair-list MUST be 
inserted
     at the head of the list.
   o The active node segments MUST be popped and repair-list inserted as the 
last segment of    repair list,
              If the repair list ends with an adjacency segment terminating on 
the tail-end of the
               active segment, and if the active segment has been signalled 
with penultimate hop popping.
   o The active node segment MUST be retained as the last segment in the 
repair-list if the
     active node segment has been signaled with ultimate hop popping.

   o  If the SRGB at the Q node is different from the SRGB at the PLR,
      then the active segment (before the insertion of the repair list)
      MUST be updated to fit the SRGB of the Q node.


  
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  3. Protecting segments

  It is not clear what do the section 5.2.1 and 5.2.2 represent.
  Are these for link-protection cases? You don't have to look into next label 
for link-protection cases.
  The mid-point node failure section 5.3 addresses node as well adjacency SID 
cases so 5.2.1 and 5.2.2 need not talk about node protection.

[SLI] §5.2 represents a link protection case , I agree that we don’t have to 
look at the next segment and the text does not require it. However the current 
structure could make think that we need.
I will propose a new text to address this.


  4.

  Modern routing architectures have separate control plane and data plane.
  section 5.3 language seem to suggest a lot of contol plane like processing in 
the forwarding plane.
The entire description has a MUST term which mandates implementing expensive
operation in forwarding plane.Suggest to add below text in section 5.3 and also 
change all MUST in 5.3.1 and 5.3.2
 to non-normative should.
I have copied the entire 5.3 section with suggested changes highlighted in bold

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
5.3
 Section 5.3.1 and 5.3.2 describe the processing for incoming Node and 
Adjacency SIDs
 when the next label in the packet is either a node/adj-sid.

The description below is intended to specify the forwarding behavior required 
for node protection.
The description should not be interpreted as limiting the possible 
implementations of this forwarding behavior.
An implementation complies with the description below as long as the externally 
visible forwarding behavior produced
by the implementation is the same as that described below.

[SLI] The goal is to provide an expected result and not how the implementation 
is done. Your text proposal looks reasonable and I will have a look on how to 
provide a better wording for the text below.

  5.3.1.  Protecting {F, T, D} or {S->F, T, D}

   This section describes the protection behavior of S when all of the
   following conditions are true:

   1.  the active segment is a prefix SID for a neighbor F, or an
       adjacency segment S->F

   2.  the primary interface used to forward the packet failed


   3.  the segment following the active segment is a prefix SID (for
       node T)

   4.  node protection is active for that interface.

   In such a case, the PLR should:>>>>>>>>Change to non-normative should

   1.  apply a NEXT operation; the segment F or S->F is removed

   2.  Confirm that the next segment is in the SRGB of F, meaning that
       the next segment is a prefix segment, e.g. for node T

   3.  Retrieve the segment ID of T (as per the SRGB of F)

   4.  Apply a NEXT operation followed by a PUSH operation of T's
       segment based on the SRGB of node S.

   5.  Look up T's segment (based on the updated label value) and
       forward accordingly.

5.3.2.  Protecting {F, F->T, D} or {S->F, F->T, D}

   This section describes the protection behavior of S when all of the
   following conditions are true:

   1.  the active segment is a prefix SID for a neighbor F, or an
       adjacency segment S->F

  2.  the primary interface used to forward the packet failed

   3.  the segment following the active segment is an adjacency SID (F-
       >T)

   4.  node protection is active for that interface.

   In such a case, the PLR should:>>>>>>>>>Change to non normative "should"

   1.  Apply a NEXT operation; the segment F or S->F is removed

   2.  Confirm that the next segment is an adjacency SID of F, say F->T

   3.  Retrieve the node segment ID associated to T (as per the set of
       Adjacency Segments of F)

   4.  Apply a NEXT operation on the next segment followed by a PUSH of
       T's segment based on the SRGB of the node S.


   5.  Look up T's segment (based on the updated label value) and
       forward accordingly.

  
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