Hi,

Just as a point of reference, for VLAN tag stacks, the outermost VLAN tag is always first in the list.

Regarding relax the ordering or not, I may not be answering exactly the same question, but I would say that you want a have a canonical order (to allow for easy and efficient comparison), and forcing everyone to have to sort the label stack before using it would probably just be regarded as a wart.

Thanks,
Rob


On 14/07/2017 22:31, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote:
Hi Tarek, Jeff,

Typically, YANG indices are added to YANG lists to simply imply ordering. I don’t believe there is absolutely any value in trying to enforce the semantics of a precise label position on this index. It is fairly obvious that the first label in the list is the first label in the stack, the second label in the list is the second label in the stack, and so on… Hopefully, the other YANG model authors will agree with me on this point and the “Index 0 as top” convention should be relaxed. Is there a YANG doctor in the house???

Now, we currently specify the top label as the first label in the list while Jeff has proposed that the bottom label be the first label. Surely, there is an existing convention within MPLS RFCs and drafts and we should be consistent. I’d research myself but I have a ton of other things to do prior to leaving for Prague tomorrow. When someone refers to the first label, is the top or bottom label? I have always been referring to the first label as the top label (with all due respect to C stack implementations).

Thanks,
Acee

From: "Tarek Saad (tsaad)" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 1:12 PM
To: Jeff Haas <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Xufeng Liu <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: Greg Mirsky <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Routing WG <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: MPLS label and LSE data models
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Resent-Date: Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 1:12 PM

    Hi Jeff and Xufeng,

    Sorry, catching up on this thread. Yes, we've made a change for
    the MPLS label-stack from "leaf-list" to a "list with key index"
    to address having multiple labels of same value in the same stack.

    We noted an assumption in the description that index 0 is the top
    of the stack followed by the remainder of the labels in the stack.
    However, you have a point about enforcing index (n-1) being
    present before accepting index n. There is some discussion on
    'preceding-sibling' and 'following-sibling' with some
    recommendations in rfc6087.. I'll need to check if enforcing such
    "when" check is good idea in YANG.

    Another idea (not so elegant) is relax this "index 0 as top" and
    just accept the lowest index of the list as the top followed by
    the remainder labels (as sorted in index increasing order).

    Regards,

    Tarek

    -----Original Message-----

    From: Jeffrey Haas <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

    Date: Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 12:51 PM

    To: Xufeng Liu <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

    Cc: Greg Mirsky <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>,
    "[email protected]
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    Subject: Re: MPLS label and LSE data models

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    Resent-To: Tarek Saad <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>,
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, <[email protected]
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    Resent-Date: Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 12:42 PM

        Xufeng,

        On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 04:14:18PM +0000, Xufeng Liu wrote:

        > Thanks for looking at this. You are right, but we are still
    discussing various approaches for the static MPLS and the
    conclusion has not been reached yet.

        > We'd like to hear what you think and appreciate your comments.

        To offer a suggestion, order the stack from bottom (lowest
    number) to top

        (highest).  Require that bottom of stack be element index zero.

        My yang constraints are a bit weak but I believe you can
    construct an XPath

        that requires that a node of index 0 must be present.

        The above two suggestions don't help with the issues of
    needing to sort the

        list by index in order to generate the stack, but it does at
    least remove

        any possible ambiguity about the critical bottom of stack
    semantic.

        -- Jeff



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