Hi AC,

My point was to indicate that running SPF regardless if it happens in
central controller or at each switch would be perhaps fine as a add-on not
as replacement of basic 7938.

As simple as this. Please think about it :) IMHO such positioning is a
smoothest way to move forward. And if someone later thinks that BGP-SPF is
cool and works great they can at their will decommission vanilla 7938. But
this should be an option to the user and BGP-SPF architecture should be
written from day one with a notion of augmentation not a clean slate
proposal.

Cheers,
R.



On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> From: rtgwg <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert Raszuk <
> [email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 4:34 PM
> To: Uma Chunduri <[email protected]>
> Cc: Routing WG <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Routing in DC RTGWG interim - updated
>
>
> I am not sure this is the central issue ..but for SPF based approaches to
>> have the topology view this could be one part of it (and hence in bgp-spf,
>>  usage of BGP-LS to advertise the TCP peering as a Link NLRI with new TLVs
>> distinguishing itself from IGP adj representation).
>>
>
> ​Well on BGP SPF proposal I see number of advantage .. but very honestly I
> do not buy into how it is being "sold" here.
>
> If folks talking about it would say ... our proposal is to run BGP SPF ​on
> controller only to optimize and augment things while you still run normal
> eBGP in CLOS I would be perhaps very interested in seriously supporting
> this work.
>
> But if I hear that this is to replace eBGP and push routes left and right
> "centrally computed" this goes way over the max level of gain vs
> drawback/risk level one is to accept.
>
>
> We are really not intending the controller deployment to follow either of
> the above. The SPF route computation is distributed in each BGP switch and
> hierarchal reflectors are used to allow for a spare mesh of BGP sessions.
> This overcomes the many copies issue that Tony alluded to when BGP is used
> for <key, value> distribution.  The controller or route reflectors
> (dependent on the use case) could subset the scoping on the BGP-LS
> information or inject NLRI to influence the SPF.
>
> My fellow authors can chime in as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Acee
>
>
>
>
> Best,
> R.
>
>
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