Hi Reshad,

One clarification. See below:

> On Aug 1, 2025, at 9:06 AM, Reshad Rahman <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ketan,
> 
> I have updated the shepherd write-ups for all 3 docs. The docs are in good 
> state but the following changes should be made, your call whether they should 
> be done before initiation of IETF LC:
> - In optimized-authentication there is one instance of "important BFD state 
> transition": 'important' should be removed

Rather than dropping “important’, I think it should use the term “significant 
change” defined in the terminology section.

Cheers.

> - Some nits on secure-sequence-numbers
> 
> Regards,
> Reshad.
> 
> On Sunday, July 27, 2025 at 04:14:22 PM GMT+2, Ketan Talaulikar 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Reshad/Authors,
> 
> I saw an update posted and I believe there were offline discussions. 
> 
> Please let me know if the document is ready for IETF LC initiation?
> 
> Mahesh, please do post the editorial nits and other such fixes on the next 
> update so they don't catch further directorate and IESG reviews.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ketan
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 3:49 PM Reshad Rahman 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Thanks Mahesh. Please see inline.
> 
> On Tuesday, July 22, 2025 at 09:14:46 AM EDT, Mahesh Jethanandani 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Reshad,
> 
> See comments inline:
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2025, at 10:53 PM, Reshad Rahman <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> BFD Auth authors, BFD WG, Ketan,
>> 
>> Thanks to the authors for addressing the comments which came from AD-review. 
>> I have gone through all 3 documents, concentrating on the changes made since 
>> WGLC completed, and the documents are all aligned with each other.
>> 
>> Here are some comments/questions (and a few small nits I noticed).
>>  
>> draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication
>> 
>> Comments/questions:
>> - Intro: "whereby only important BFD state transitions require strong 
>> authentication" (this seems to be new text). I thought all state transitions 
>> required strong authentication?
> 
> There are certain state transitions that like DOWN to INIT and INIT to DOWN 
> that do not need strong authentication. Maybe we can use the term 
> “significant change” that we have defined in the document that lists the 
> state transitions that need stronger authentication.
> 
> Looking at the current definition of "significant change" in section 2, it 
> says "State change, a demand mode change...". Are you suggesting to change 
> that definition to "important state changes"? 
> 
> JTBC my recollection is that all state changes require strong auth. This is 
> the table present in older revs of this doc.
>           Read   : On state change from <column> to <row>
>           Auth   : Authenticate BFD control packet
>           NULL   : No Authentication. Use NULL AUTH Type.
>           n/a    : Invalid state transition.
>           Select : Most packets NULL AUTH. Selective (periodic)
>                    packets authenticated.
>          +--------+--------+--------+--------+
>          |        | DOWN   | INIT   | UP     |
>          +--------+--------+--------+--------+
>          | DOWN   |  NULL  |  Auth  |  Auth  |
>          +--------+--------+--------+--------+
>          | INIT   |  Auth  |  NULL  |  n/a   |
>          +--------+--------+--------+--------+
>          | UP     |  Auth  |  Auth  | Select |
>          +--------+--------+--------+--------+
> 
> BTW I missed the fact that the abstract also says "important BFD state 
> transitions", that was added in rev-24. My recommendation, as shepherd, is to 
> do "strong auth" for all state transitions which is what IIRC the document 
> had until recently. If the authors have justification to do "strong auth" for 
> important state transitions only, you need to define what are the important 
> state transitions (I'm assuming it'd be from/to Up state). And change the 
> following in section 3 to say "important BFD state changes":
>    The intention of these optimized procedures is to permit strong
>    authentication for BFD state changes
> 
> Regards,
> Reshad.
> 


Mahesh Jethanandani
[email protected]






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