Hi Greg,

Thanks for your suggestion.
I think your suggestion is good, we will modify it in the next version.

Regards,
Haibo

|-----Original Message-----
|From: Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimir...@gmail.com]
|Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2022 4:29 AM
|To: Wanghaibo (Rainsword) <rainsword.w...@huawei.com>
|Cc: draft-wang-bess-sbfd-discrimina...@ietf.org; BESS <b...@ietf.org>; rtg-bfd
|WG <rtg-bfd@ietf.org>
|Subject: Re: A question about the draft-wang-bess-sbfd-discriminator
|
|Hi Haibo,
|thank you for the clarification. I may suggest a text for Section 3:
|
|In some EVPN deployments, for example, when it spans over multiple domains,
|only one of a pair of interconnected PEs benefits from monitoring the status of
|the connection. In such a case, using S-BFD [RFC7880] is advantageous as it
|reduces the load on one of the PEs while providing the benefit of faster
|convergence. The following sections provide examples of EVPNs that would
|benefit from using S-BFD.
|
|What are your thoughts?
|
|Regards,
|Greg
|
|On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 7:18 PM Wanghaibo (Rainsword) <
|rainsword.w...@huawei.com> wrote:
|
|> Hi Greg,
|>
|>        Thanks for you comments.
|>
|> Yes, the resources will save at PE1 and PE2 as figure 1. This is a
|> typical 3PE scenario.
|>
|>        The service is like this:
|>
|> +-----+    +-----+        +-----+
|>
|> | UCE1|----| APE1|--------|SPE1 |,
|>
|> +-----+    +-----+`      /+-----+ `.
|>
|>                    `,  .'           `.+-----+
|>
|>            ......    \/               | SCE1|
|>
|>                      /\              `+-----+
|>
|>                     `  `.          ,'
|>
|> +-----+    +-----+,'     .+-----+ `
|>
|> | uCEn|----| APEn|--------|SPE2 |`
|>
|> +-----+    +-----+        +-----+
|>
|>        There may be many Access PEs,used to access User CE. And they
|> all multi-homed to a couple Servicc PE, SPE1 and SPE2.
|>
|>        (shown as the PE1 and PE2 as figure 1)
|>
|>         Access PE needs to detect Service PE’s reachability. Access PE
|> creates SBFD session as an initiator, SPE as the reflector. This will
|> save Service PEs’ resources.
|>
|>
|>
|> Regards,
|>
|> Haibo
|>
|>
|>
|> *From:* Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimir...@gmail.com]
|> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2022 11:12 PM
|> *To:* Wanghaibo (Rainsword) <rainsword.w...@huawei.com>
|> *Cc:* draft-wang-bess-sbfd-discrimina...@ietf.org; BESS
|> <b...@ietf.org>; rtg-bfd WG <rtg-bfd@ietf.org>
|> *Subject:* Re: A question about the draft-wang-bess-sbfd-discriminator
|>
|>
|>
|> Hi Haibo,
|>
|> thank you for your expedient response. If I understand the scenario
|> you're addressing, it is where a single PE with moderate resources is
|> connected to a PE that acts as the edge device for the access network.
|> To improve the quality of user experience, customer's PE is connected
|> to a secondary PE that is used as a backup. You are concerned that
|> maintaining two BFD sessions on the customer's PE might overload the
|> resource-limited PE. But isn't that the PE that initiates S-BFD
|> sessions toward two access network edge PEs in your draft? I think
|> that the savings are on the side of these two PEs, not the subscriber's PE.
|Would you agree?
|>
|>
|>
|> Regards,
|>
|> Greg
|>
|>
|>
|> On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 7:20 AM Wanghaibo (Rainsword) <
|> rainsword.w...@huawei.com> wrote:
|>
|> Hi Greg,
|>
|>        Thanks for your comments.
|>
|>        The scenario you pointed out is a 4PE scenario, but in our
|> solution, a large number of scenarios are based on 3PE.
|>
|> In a 3PE scenario, deploying BFD wastes resources. A large number of
|> single-homed PEs may be connected to the dual-homed PEs. The
|> dual-homed PEs may not have enough resources to create BFD sessions.
|>
|>
|>
|> Regards,
|>
|> Haibo
|>
|>
|>
|> *From:* Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimir...@gmail.com]
|> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2022 12:44 AM
|> *To:* Wanghaibo (Rainsword) <rainsword.w...@huawei.com>;
|> draft-wang-bess-sbfd-discrimina...@ietf.org; BESS <b...@ietf.org>;
|> rtg-bfd WG <rtg-bfd@ietf.org>
|> *Subject:* A question about the draft-wang-bess-sbfd-discriminator
|>
|>
|>
|> Hi Haibo and the Authors,
|>
|> thank you for updating the draft. I've read the new version and have a
|> question about the use case presented in the document. There are three
|> PEs with two of them providing redundant access to a CE. It appears
|> that a more general case would be if both CEs use redundant connections to
|the EVPN.
|> Asume, PE4 is added and connected to CE2. In that case, it seems
|> reasonable that each PE is monitoring remote PEs, i.e., PE1 monitors
|> PE3 and PE4, PE2
|> - PE3 and PE4, PE3 - PE1 and PE2, and PE4 - PE1 and PE2. So, now there
|> are pairs of S-BFD sessions between PEs connected to CE1 and CE2
|respectively

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