David,

Thanks for the feedback.  I had considered adding such a line to the statement 
but was wary of the implication of "you must come here to participate".  If 
such is acceptable, I'll add it to the next iteration.

-- Jeff


> On Nov 24, 2021, at 6:07 PM, David Sinicrope <david.sinicr...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeff, 
> 
> One suggestion on the line requesting feedback:  We don't really want any SDO 
> using the liaison process as a substitute for participation in the IETF 
> process.  Some organizations consider a liaison to carry the collective 
> weight of the organization and expect technical comments in the liaison to 
> carry the same weight. (vs individual comments).  Such is not the case in 
> IETF.  That said, the organization is of course free to provide feedback via 
> liaison response in whatever form they see fit.  
> 
> It would be good to add the following to make it clear that we prefer 
> comments through the IETF process while still leaving the door open for the 
> SDO (BBF) to respond as they deem appropriate:   
> 
> "Those interested in providing detailed feedback and technical comment on the 
> draft are encouraged to participate in the development of the draft in the 
> IETF via the IETF process."
> 
> I hope this helps.  Please let me know if you have any questions.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/24/21 11:46, Jeffrey Haas wrote:
>> Working Group,
>> 
>> The chairs are considering the following text for a liaison statement to the 
>> Broadband Forum with regard to draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo.
>> 
>> We'd like your feedback before we send it out.
>> 
>> -- Jeff
>> 
>> -------------
>> 
>> >From group: bfd
>> >From Contact: Jeffrey Haas
>> To Group: Broadband-forum
>> To Contacts: (bbf-contacts)
>> Cc: rtg-bfd@ietf.org <mailto:rtg-bfd@ietf.org>, rtg-bfd-cha...@ietf.org 
>> <mailto:rtg-bfd-cha...@ietf.org>, rtg-...@ietf.org <mailto:rtg-...@ietf.org>
>> Response Contact: Jeffrey Haas, Reshad Rahman
>> 
>> Body:
>> The IETF Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) Working Group has begun
>> work on "Unaffiliated BFD Echo Function".  This work is happening in the
>> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo.[1]
>> 
>> The BFD protocol (IETF RFC 5880, etc.) is used as a service in routers and
>> other IP gateway devices for testing bi-directional connectivity.  Such
>> devices benefit from having BFD as a common interface for monitoring the
>> status of such connectivity.  
>> 
>> The purpose of this work is to permit an implementation of BFD that supports
>> Echo functionality to be used with a Internet Protocol host that does not
>> support the BFD protocol, but is capable of providing the packet loopback
>> behavior required by the BFD Echo mechanism.  
>> 
>> The BFD Working Group is aware of an overlapping use case addressed by 
>> BBF TR-146.
>> 
>> We welcome feedback and further dialog regarding this work.
>> 
>> 
>> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo/ 
>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfd-unaffiliated-echo/>
>> 

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