Greg, this is good.

Regards,
Reshad.

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Hi Reshad,

thank you for the great suggestion. Below is the proposed update to section 
4.3.1 New State Variables:

OLD TEXT

       This variable is only pertinent when bfd.SessionType is

       MultipointTail.

NEW TEXT

        This variable is only pertinent when bfd.SessionType is

         MultipointTail and SHOULD NOT be modified after the

         MultipointTail session has been created.





Greg Mirsky



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Hi Greg,

Regarding changing bfd.SilentTail on the fly, I think we should consider adding 
some text “… SHOULD not be modified after the MultipointTail session has been 
created.“. This is to prevent  false failure detections as you mentioned.

Regards,
Reshad.

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Hi Reshad,

<have to switch my contact for a week>

You've said:

Hi Greg,



The question about whether we need a new variable wasn’t referring to 
MultipointClient state (I agree this is well explained). Since I mentioned 
“state variable” I realize the confusion…



The question was whether we need a new state variable (not for the 
MultipointClient state) to control the behavior explained in this paragraph, 
e.g the new state variable could be called bfd.TrackTails.



   If the head wishes to know the identity of the tails, it sends

   multipoint Polls as needed.  Previously known tails that don't

   respond to the Polls will be detected.



Regards,

Reshad.

I agree that an operator should have control over whether the head does tail 
discovery, tail monitoring. But I think that that may require whole suite  of 
parameters and some might need coordidation for the MultipointHead with 
MultipointTail, e.g. when the given MultipointTail has bfd.SilentTail changed 
from 0 to 1 or vice versa. Would that trigger false negative on the head? I 
think that there's lots of  open space ofr the innovation in the area of 
monitoring p2mp tails. I hope that someone will be interested to continue and 
produce more detailed specification than draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-active-tail. 
For example, time interval between multicast Poll and  relationship to unicast 
BFD control packets to tail(s).



Best regards,

Greg Mirsky



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