Ashesh,

I'll take it as a given that there's an implied gripe about a lack of TLVs
for BFD and a push for BFDv2. :-)

The work in here seems reasonable, but does run up against the question I
always must ask: Is this actually useful/usable at high BFD rates?

I understand that a likely scenario (and not documented in the draft) is you
start with a sedate enough transmit interval so as to get your measurements.
But once you have them, I would expect that a poll would be initiated to
utilize faster timers.  Once we get to the fast timers, would the procedures
for handling the timestamps be reasonable to run at that rate?

-- Jeff

On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 01:52:47PM +0000, Ashesh Mishra wrote:
> Hi BFD experts,
> 
> We recently submitted a new individual contribution on BFD Performance 
> Measurement. Please review the document and provide comments.
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-am-bfd-performance/
> 
> This document proposes a mechanism to determine the smallest BFD transmit 
> interval that can be supported on the link.  This is achieved by actively 
> measuring the one-way delay for each BFD session and setting the BFD session 
> intervals based on the measured delay. This allows the BFD session to adapt 
> to the fastest rate feasible on the current active path.
> 
> The method described in this proposal is useful in networks where the network 
> latency is high, or varies with time.  Trans-oceanic links and connectivity 
> over geo-synchronous satellites are typical examples of links where the 
> latency is high and the difference in latency on primary and backup paths can 
> be significant. Another use-case is connectivity using satellites in 
> mid-earth orbit (MEO) or low-earth orbit (LEO).  In these systems the one-way 
> delay, while it is low (25msec to 150 msec), varies with time.  This 
> variation, based on various factors, can be as high as 30 msec.  With mobile 
> receivers, such as ships, the delay when using such connectivity can be 
> non-trivial to predict.  This requires an automated method to determine the 
> optimal BFD interval to allow fastest possible recovery in case of failure.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ashesh Mishra
> Mahesh Jethanandani

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