Hi,

You can do (1) today. Why do you need a standard?

Thx
Shahram

-----Original Message-----
From: Santosh P K [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:08 AM
To: Shahram Davari; Gregory Mirsky; Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)
Cc: MALLIK MUDIGONDA (mmudigon); [email protected]
Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt

Shahram,
    
> 
> 1) OuterL2-Outer IP-UDP-VXLAN-Inner L2-Inner IP-UDP-BFD
> 
> Or
> 
> 2) OuterL2-Outer IP-UDP-VXLAN-Inner IP-UDP-BFD
> 
> If (2) hen how do you specify the VXLAN payload in IP and not Ethernet?
> 

It is 1) we have next version of this draft which address that part. 


Thanks
Santosh P K 


> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory Mirsky [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 1:51 PM
> To: Shahram Davari; Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)
> Cc: MALLIK MUDIGONDA (mmudigon); Santosh P K; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt
> 
> Hi Shahram,
> thank you for your comments to this proposal that make the discussion so
> much alive.
> I think that processing of the VXLAN tag by VTEP before validating BFD is
> sufficient, in my view, level of verification. In VCCV BFD the PW label is not
> used for BFD forwarding but we find it useful as Service OAM in addition to
> RFC 5884, BFD over MPLS LSP.
> 
>       Regards,
>               Greg
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shahram Davari [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 10:39 AM
> To: Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)
> Cc: Gregory Mirsky; MALLIK MUDIGONDA (mmudigon); Santosh P K; rtg-
> [email protected]
> Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt
> 
> Hi Prasad,
> 
> Is this a special type of BFD or standard BFD RFC 5880 and 5881)? Since
> standard BFD processing does no care where the BFD came from it only looks
> at "your discriminator" to update BFD state machine.
> 
> Also I don't see how many VXLANs can be checked via a single BFD session.
> Could you please describe?
> 
> Lastly checking to see a VXLAN/VNI forwarding domain exist in a VTEP should
> not require BFD. Just use some query mechanism. Why do you need to run
> continuous BFD.
> 
> What you have to show me to convince me that your draft solves a real
> problem is to show that VXLAN tag  is  used for BFD forwarding. Otherwise
> BFD over the outer or Inner IP should give you all coverage needed.
> 
> 
> Thx
> Shahram
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi) [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 3:11 AM
> To: Shahram Davari
> Cc: Gregory Mirsky; MALLIK MUDIGONDA (mmudigon); Santosh P K; rtg-
> [email protected]
> Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt
> 
> Hello Shahram,
>   At the terminating VTEP, VxLAN information is used to consume the BFD
> packet. In other words, a BFD session increases the confidence of the
> existence of the VNI-Forwarding Domain mapping and the presence of valid
> VTEP termination configuration at the terminating VTEP. At the originating
> VTEP, it is a matter of implementation of how many VxLAN tables are
> exercised in the datapath (am aware of at least one implementation where it
> is being exercised to a considerable extent).
> 
> Thanks
> Prasad
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shahram Davari [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 8:24 PM
> To: Shahram Davari
> Cc: Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi); Gregory Mirsky; MALLIK
> MUDIGONDA (mmudigon); Santosh P K; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt
> 
> Hi
> 
> May be a better way to make this clear is to answer the following question:
> 
> Where is the VXLAN tag information used in this BFD forwarding?
> 
> Thx
> Shahram

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