imjournal uses the journal api to fetch the logs (fetching them in near-real-time), journald keeps files internally to support it.

David Lang

On Fri, 15 Mar 2024, Attila Lakatos via rsyslog wrote:

The solution is clean to me, however I think this could be a bottleneck for busy systems. Also, this would mean that I need to maintain a copy of journal logs in one or more files.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 2:53 PM John Chivian <jchiv...@chivian.com> wrote:

You could split rsyslog into two separate service instances.

Service 1 would do *only one thing*, read imjournal and write to
file(s).  This service would *not* have the network.target dependency.
Service 2 would do *everything else*, including reading the file(s)
output from above (which survive the reboot) and sending the events within
to a network destination.  This service would have the network.target
dependency so as to be able to deliver reliably.

Regards,


On Mar 13, 2024, at 07:49, Attila Lakatos via rsyslog <
rsyslog@lists.adiscon.com> wrote:

Recently I came across an observation where we are not able to capture
normal reboot/shutdown logs on Fedora/RHEL distributions. In these
environments, systemd is responsible for starting the rsyslog service. A
service can have multiple dependencies, which influence how early or how
late rsyslog is started or stopped. Many years ago, we added dependency for
the network.target and network-online.target into the service file [1]. If
rsyslog started before establishing network access, it would be unable to
transmit messages to remote destinations during that period, resulting in
the generation of misleading information about the unavailability of
certain remote targets (e.g. not able to resolve hostnames).
However, this approach results in a significant tradeoff. While it prevents
misleading unavailability messages during network setup and shutdown, it
also causes rsyslog to *exit* *early* during shutdown, leading to missed
logs regarding the graceful termination of other programs. This limitation
extends to system reboots as well. Thus, while addressing one issue, the
current service configuration introduces another.
By default, we retrieve shutdown events from the journal using the
imjournal module. Journal log data is stored in memory so after shutdown,
logs are not preserved.

Has someone faced this problem? Are there any known workarounds?

[1]

https://github.com/deoren/rsyslog-examples/blob/master/etc/systemd/system/rsyslog.service.d/10-wait-on-network.conf
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