The tool that can recreate the .qi indexes is available at
git.adiscon.com/?p=rsyslog.git;a=blob;f=tools/recover_qi.pl;h=4e2cf9d561fb06bf0efdca73b90d7875a7b4102d;hb=HEAD
This is known to be needed if the disk completely fills up and .qi files are
lost. But it should not be needed otherwise.
David Lang
On Fri, 10 May 2013, David Lang wrote:
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 10:08:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Lang <[email protected]>
Reply-To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [rsyslog] Rsyslog Disk Queue Flush Issue
A quick question and clarification of my understanding here.
Did this sending system ever run completely out of disk space? or did it just
hit the queue size limit that you set and still had more disk space
available?
Bad Things (tm) are known to happen to the queue if it completely runs out of
space.
David Lang
On Thu, 9 May 2013, David Lang wrote:
On Thu, 9 May 2013, Fajun Chen wrote:
Saw this error message below several times, not every time though:
rsyslogd-2040: fatal error on disk queue 'action 22 queue[DA]', emergency
switch to direct mode [try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2040 ]
I think this is the problem.
are there any other errors around this (something that may indicate an
error reading/writing a file?)
I also noticed that .qi file in the disk queue directory doesn't show up
sometimes. Is this file required for disk queue to function correctly? I
did notice that disk queue flushing was working when the files was absent
in several cases.
I don't believe that the queue will work properly without the .qi file. and
if it's switching to direct mode and failing, the messages are not really
getting queued, they are getting lost. I think that what's happening is
that rsyslog has the data that's in the .qi file in memory, so it can keep
going without it, but once it's restarted, it doesn't know what's what
what version are you using on the sending machine? (you may have said
earlier, but I'm not remembering). I know I've seen some work done dealing
with these sorts of problems since 7.0 was released, so if you are on an
older version, the first thing to try is a current version.
I think I remember Rainer posting a tool to recreate/fix the .qi file in
cases where it's been corrupted.
David Lang
Thanks,
Fajun
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 9 May 2013, Fajun Chen wrote:
Resending original reply without debugging logs since it was blocked
waiting for approval (message size over 512k).
Thanks,
Fajun
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Fajun Chen <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:34 AM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 9 May 2013, Fajun Chen wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:22 PM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 8 May 2013, Fajun Chen wrote:
iptables block setting didn't work for some reason.
what do the iptables rules on that system look like?
without seeing them, my guess is that there is a rule already there
that
allows packets related to a known connection that are getting
applied
(and
therefor accepting the packets) before the deny rule you are trying
to
put
in place takes effect.
The same problem exists on 5.8.6 with iptables blocking. One minor
detail:
the queued files reached the limit of 96M, it's reduced to 95M after
the
firewall was unblocked, but it stays at 95M on the client without
flushing.
I can use logger to send new log messages to the server, so network
connection is not an issue.
7.3.14 seems to be working with iptables blocking.
hmm, I don't understand how it could be different for different
versions
of rsyslog. the iptables filtering should be happening by the OS and
wouldn't care what version of software is running.
iptables filtering issue had been resolved by restarting rsyslog for
the
firewall changes to take effect.
Ok, that is almost certinly the 'established connection' thing that I was
speculating about.
rsyslog version has nothing to do with iptables filtering. What I
referred
to was that rsyslog 5.8.6 doesn't flush queued files while 7.3.14 does
when
iptables filtering was changed from blocking to unblocking.
ahh, Ok.
At this point 5.8.6 is old enough that it's well past being supported, so
let's work on the current version.
As a alternative testing, I stopped rsylogd on the remote server and
the
logs were queued on the client as expected. I started rsyslog on
the
remote
server once the disk queue on the client is filled up. I did see
the
queue
files were flushed to the remote server once rsyslog is back to
service. So
this seems to be related to rsyslog configuration change.
My guess (without knowing the code well) is that the queued
messages are
somehow queued for the specific destination (IIRC you had this queue
setup
as an action queue, not as the main queue, you posted your config,
but I
have already deleted those messages). I'd be curious to see if you
have
the
same problem spilling the main queue to disk.
Just for your reference, here's my rsyslog configuration:
# start forwarding rule 1 of 1
$ActionQueueType LinkedList
$ActionQueueFileName srvrfwd
$ActionResumeRetryCount -1
$ActionQueueSaveOnShutdown on
$ActionQueueMaxDiskSpace 100000000
$ActionQueueSize 200000 # Tried 100000 as well
$ActionQueueHighWaterMark 600
$ActionQueueLowWaterMark 200
$ActionQueueTimeoutEnqueue 1
#local5.* :omrelp:127.255.255.1:20514 # Invalid IP to trigger log
buffering
local5.* :omrelp:172.17.5.28:20514 # Real IP to trigger log
forwarding
# end forwarding rule 1 of 1
On the other hand, as I noted in the first report, when I changed
rsyslog
configuration before disk space limit is reached, the queued files
were
flushed to the remote server without issues.
very interesting, and probably a bug.
Let me know if you need debugging logs to troubleshoot it.
Ranier will need probably need to get involved with this, but he's
super
busy the next 2-3 weeks with a very high priority deadline (the "every
waking hour" type of project)
It wouldn't hurt to take a look at the debug logs for the copy started
after the config change.
Rsyslog debugging log is attached here. This was collected by running
"rsyslogd -dn" when the remote server IP was set to valid. Please let
me
know if you want me to submit bug tracking item.
you can e-mail it to me directly
by the way, are you sure you are doing a full restart after the config
change? a -HUP does not cause rsyslog to do a full restart and re-read
it's
config file, it just causes rsyslog to close and re-open it's outputs
(a
full restart takes a long time and can cause messages to be lost)
I did "service rsyslog restart" after the config change. "Kill timeout
5"
is set in /etc/init/rsyslog.conf. I'm not sure if this timeout setting
could make a difference.
this should do it. but just to be sure, do a stop (make sure it's
finished
shuttng down), then a start
We need the initial startup logs to be queued before remote logging
server
is set. Switching from invalid IP to valid IP in rsyslog
configuration
was
chosen to meet this requirement.
Is there any chance of re-ordering the startup sequence to get the
config
first, then start rsyslog, then start everything else? kernel
messages
will
get queued for quite a while, so they shouldn't be an issue. The
only
issue
would be any other applications that need to write logs very early
on.
The problem is that we don't know remote logging server at startup,
so we
need the capability to buffer the logs until the remote server is set
by
user later. Understood that the logs could get lost after the disk
space
limit is reached. Is there any way to achieve this without rsyslog
configuration change?
one possibility would be to just write the logs to a file and then use
imfile to read this file later to send them upstream, but I'm not sure
if
imfile has gained the capability to get all it's data from the file
yet.
Historically, imfile only read the message content from the file, it
generated the timestamp, hostname, priority, and severity information
itself. I know there was talk about having an option to have imfile
parse
this from the file, but I don't know if it ever happened.
If nothing else, you could write messages to a file with the
RSYSLOG_ForwardFormat and then use netcat or similar to read the file
and
spit it out over the network later, but that wouldn't be able to use
RELP
to send it. I guess you could use netcat to send it to a UDP listener
on
localhost and then have the logs sent out via RELP from there.
There should be some way to feed the logs to /dev/log, but I'm not
sure
exactly how to do that.
Thanks for all your suggestions. Data completeness and integrity is
very
important in our use cases. I'm not sure how some of the logging
information such as originial timestamp would change when it's routed
around. If this is confirmed to be a bug and can be fixed in 1-2
months,
I
would much rather to wait for the fix.
Well, if you feed the data to syslog with the timestamp, it will preserve
the existing timestamp by default.
David Lang
Thanks,
Fajun
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:56 AM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 8 May 2013, Fajun Chen wrote:
I upgraded ubuntu rsyslog to 7.3.14 and still got the same issue.
My test procedure:
Clean log file. Set remote host IP to 127.255.255.1 (invalid IP)
in
rsyslog conf. service rsyslog restart followed by logger in a
loop. The
disk queue files are buffered but are limited to 96M overall. Set
remote
host IP to valid IP. service rsyslog restart. I expect the queued
files to
be flushed to the remote host but these files are still in the
queuing
directory.
This may be a silly thought, but the fact that you are changing
the
configuration between these two steps could be part of the
problem.
I would suggest that instead of changing the config to
enable/disable
sending the logs that you instead keep the rsyslog config the same
and set
iptables rules to block and unblock the communications.
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