So, when thealgorithm thinks that a block of code in the source file A is the same as some block of code in target file file B, on account of the check-sums being the same, when in fact the two blocks of code are different (as the documentation explicitely states is an, al beit remote, possibility), so that you're expecting to end up with B as a copy of A and it isn't, then how can the algothrim be considered deterministic?
Note that the resulting difference in the final state of files A and B is not due to transmission or hardware errors in this case. A and B started out different (similar, but different), and ended up different because the checksum computed to the same value for different blocks of code so the algorthim couldn't tell they were different. This is deterministic? And don't ask me to produce an example, because I do understand "astronomical". But if you had a heart pacemaker whose operation depended on appropriate updates to a control data file, would you trust rsync to send that file update to the pacemaker? ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Pool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Berend Tober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Non-determinism > On 17 Apr 2002, Berend Tober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So while the software algorithm of ftp and cp are deterministic, > > there must be some quantifiable probablity of failure > > non-the-less. The difference with rsync is that not only are the > > same effects of data corruption at work as with ftp and cp, but the > > algorithm itself introduces non- determinism. > > You are using the word "non-deterministic" in a way at odds with its > usual meaning in computer science. > > > 1 definition found > > > From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (13 Mar 01) [foldoc]: > > > deterministic > > > 1. <probability> Describes a system whose time evolution can > > be predicted exactly. > > > Contrast {probabilistic}. > > The execution and output of the rsync algorithm can be exactly > predicted from its input. It is a deterministic algorithm. > ... > What part of "astronomical" don't you understand? > -- To unsubscribe or change options: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html