I replied before in this topic saying that I was doing manual testing.I should state that I am now using Selenium + Ruby + RSpec.
ASP 0 - Ruby 1 On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Joseph Anthony Pasquale Holsten < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 02008:02:27, at 10:01CST, Maurício Linhares wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:59 AM, aslak hellesoy > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I also had to go into specs on a project I'm not working on, and > >>> found > >>> an unholy hive of database-accessing specs. It's disheartening. > >>> Basically, it's cargo cult development practices - using the "best > >>> practice" without actually understanding it. > >>> > >> > >> What "best practice" are you referring to? > >> > > > > I'm also interested in discovering what is this "best practice". > > > > I can't see any problem in specs running against a database, that's > > exactly what integration testing is about, shouldn't we do integration > > testing just because we're using BDD? I really don't think so. > > > > The big problem about specs running against a database is not knowing > > that it's integration testing and also that specs that access > > databases run slower than "pure" unit tests, but you can't be sure > > that your app works without a bunch of integration tests. > > I'm reminded of one of my heros, Matthias Felleisen. If you don't > know exactly what I'm talking about, go here: <http://htdp.org/>. His > mission in life is to teach the pattern to design programs. His > approach draws more from the Design by Contract paradigm than TDD, > but it's the same goal. > > If you can ever stop in at Northeastern University in Boston, drop in > on a class. Especially the freshman intro to programming. If we can't > teach the method as well as him, we're screwed. Because he's been > working on it for twenty years. > > Of course, my hope is that hackety.org + bdd = hdtp++. I can dream, no? > > http:// Joseph Holsten .com > _______________________________________________ > rspec-users mailing list > rspec-users@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >
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