Dear all, I was checking how to tweak the HW prediction and started to switch from implicit generation of the various RRA to explicit.
It turned out that what the rrdtool create does, and what is described in the manual page (and also is close to my intuition), differ considerably. Please consider the following test script: alpha=0.4 beta=0.001 start=$(date --date="2016-09-01 00:00" +%s) commonargs="--start $start --step 5s DS:someval:GAUGE:20m:U:U RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:5s:3d" rm auto.rrd manual.rrd rrdtool create auto.rrd $commonargs \ RRA:HWPREDICT:1w:$alpha:$beta:1d rrdtool create manual.rrd $commonargs \ RRA:HWPREDICT:1w:$alpha:$beta:1d:3 \ RRA:SEASONAL:1:$alpha:2 \ RRA:DEVSEASONAL:1:$alpha:2 \ RRA:DEVPREDICT:1w:4 \ RRA:FAILURES:1:7:9:4 rrdinfo auto.rrd > auto.info rrdinfo manual.rrd > manual.info diff -u auto.info manual.info exit 0 The above two invocations generate the same content checked via rrdtool dump and diff (only differences are in cur_row values). Now this seems to be in contrast to the description in the man page of rrdcreate: The SEASONAL and DEVSEASONAL RRAs store the seasonal coefficients for the Holt-Winters forecasting algorithm and the seasonal deviations, respectively. There is one entry per observation time point in the seasonal cycle. For example, if primary data points are generated every five minutes and the seasonal cycle is 1 day, both SEASONAL and DEVSEASONAL will have 288 rows. But indeed, the dump of the rrdtool auto creation does set the seasonal and devseasonal to 1 row only! Furthermore, concerning the RRA:FAILURES: argument. If the FAILURES RRA is implicitly created, rows will be set to the seasonal period argument of the HWPREDICT RRA. Of course, the RRDtool resize command is available if these defaults are not sufficient and the creator wishes to avoid explicit creations of the other specialized function RRAs. Furthermore, also the failures only contain 1 row, which is incorrect. So if I want to create something that conforms with the description in the man page, I need to use rrdtool create manual.rrd $commonargs \ RRA:HWPREDICT:1w:$alpha:$beta:1d:3 \ RRA:SEASONAL:1d:$alpha:2 \ RRA:DEVSEASONAL:1d:$alpha:2 \ RRA:DEVPREDICT:1w:4 \ RRA:FAILURES:1d:7:9:4 Now the question is, which data does the internal rrd HW computation use? Is there a misunderstanding from my side, or is something missing in my view? Thanks a lot Norbert -- PREINING Norbert http://www.preining.info Accelia Inc. + JAIST + TeX Live + Debian Developer GPG: 0x860CDC13 fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13 _______________________________________________ rrd-users mailing list rrd-users@lists.oetiker.ch https://lists.oetiker.ch/cgi-bin/listinfo/rrd-users